Hi all -

I must say that I do agree with Tim. Either Refmac/Coot or Refmac/ ARP_waters do a good job (so does other software) but I always check things manually.
The most obvious problems with software are:

-Putting waters in place of ions - when you think of chemistry you will realize that many 'automated' waters are not waters. Keep the buffer composition in mind.

-ARP (but also coot) will happily introduce waters at places of loops you have not modeled, as well as in place of e.g. glycerol from your cryo, or other ligands that come from your buffer.

These are for me the two main mistakes that you need to correct for and is not easy to do automatically, so by all means look at these in e.g. Coot, having the 'show environment' on to look at hydrogen bonding distances. btw, the 'suspicious' waters option at coot is very useful for a quick check.

A.


On Apr 17, 2010, at 22:53, Tim Gruene wrote:

Dear Ivan,

maybe I am too old-fashioned, but since I recommend to check each water manually after it has been placed, it does not really matter which program you use.

Tim



On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 06:02:40PM -0700, xaravich ivan wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am in the process of refining my structure. I have built almost the whole protein. Now its time to add waters. Should I do refinement in refmac5 with (adding waters running coot) or should I use Arp/wArp waters or both?. I
have 2.15 Angs near  data and about 1200 residues.
Does it matter which program I use to add water? Is there something specific I should look for? I apologise in advance if this question has already been
asked before.

Thanks,
Ivan

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