Dear Bert,
Your density reminded me a little bit of the paper by Pearson et al.
Biochemistry 39:8575-8584(2000) which describes the water structure in the
catalytic center of urease. I just went back to it and it looks like Figure
3 in that paper may hint some similarities to your case, in that you may
indeed have a mixture of water models.

You did not say if your data comes from cryo-cooled crystals that were
manipulated in similar or different ways, or whether one of the two is a
room temperature data set. One of the largely overlooked issues related to
crystal cryo-cooling concerns the structure attained by the solvent.
Structures of urease at 100K and 298K (pdb entries 1ejw and 1ejx) show
marked differences in the water structure in the active site and elsewhere.
This phenomenon has been observed in other structures as well, and not just
with respect to water structure but also for loops and side-chains. Even two
cryo-cooled crystals that are manipulated in similar ways may exhibit
differences.
Bart Hazes addressed some of these issues in an interesting paper in Acta
Cryst. (2005). D61, 80-87.

Nonetheless, to maximize the chances for the best interpretation possible I
would first improve phase accuracy by completing the solvent model as much
as possible (except from the contested density), and then use
post-refinement residual Fo-Fc density to evaluate possible water models
(and other possible interpretations) for the density in question. 

Best wishes
Savvas

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Ghent University 
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Subject: [ccp4bb] unknown density

Dear all,


I have attached a jpeg of some (2fo-fc) density in the active site of a
protein I'm refining (1.9 A data, Rfree 24%, still need to pick waters etc;
oxygen atom placed in the approximate center for reference). It looks like
there are 3 non-hydrogen atoms sandwiched between an Asp, His and Arg. The
molecule seems hydrogen bonded to all these three residues.
Has anybody any idea what this can be? In a map of another crystal of the
same crystal form at lower res (2.3 A), there is a clear, single water
molecule between the Asp and His. Are they waters at partial occupancies
(there is not enough room for 3 separate waters)? The only other thing I can
come up with is formate, but that wasn't used in the crystallization.

Any hints appreciated!

Thanks, Bert


Bert van den Berg
UMass Medical School
Worcester, MA 01605







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