Dear Joe one thing that has helped me a lot with similar problems is G. Kleywegt's SPASM - you make your best guess of the mainchain then add a total guess of the sidechains (say with mutate in COOT - choosing the top rotamer). Then you cut out the loop and run this in SPASM as a search model looking for similar motifs in the pdb. You specify a low cut-off for the substitution matrix - to get lots of hits - and use high values (3.0-4.5A) for the initial positional errors for the residues - this means you get maybe 100 possible structurally similar loops from other proteins. Then you can sort the output on BLOSUM similarity score or on RMSD to your initial guess. The BLOSUM search criterion is the reason that you add the sidechains. If you get no hits with CA and SC (sidechain) then you can switch to CA only. Or try with a more restricted bit of your loop. Or look through the output just for loops that share a structurally conserved Gly or Pro with your sequence.
If I get any possible hits I then superimpose them on the electron density to see if they give hints how the sidechains might lie and also how the backbone H-bonding might run. There are lots of small motifs with conserved sidechain to mainchain H-bonding (there is a database of these in Glasgow I think) and so you pick up hints from similar loops more often than you might think - from completely unrelated proteins. I have a script to run SPASM if you want it. Another approach is RAPPER which builds multiple a priori loops very quickly and sees if they fit the density. There used to be a RAPPER server... not sure if it is still active. Good luck. Martyn ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 4:11:01 PM Subject: [ccp4bb] Poor electron density - polyAla or PolyGly? Hello, I have been building a protein model (resolution 2.2A) which has one small loop of 6 residues having poor density. I cannot see any side chain in this region but I can see relatively poor main-chain density which at least clearly indicate the loop conformation. I am trying my best to build polyAla chain in this region. But 3-4 residues end up coming in disallowed region of Ramachandran plot. I think the problem is - in this region i can not even build the main chain atoms with high confidence. Can I build polyGly in this region? or should I just leave this region? I just don't feel like leaving this region empty. Any suggestions in this regards is highly appreciated! regards Joe