Boaz,

If you had used the U option in SHELXPRO to update from .res to .ins the 
free R should have been included in the deposition PDB file by the B 
option!

George

Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
Dept. Structural Chemistry, 
University of Goettingen,
Tammannstr. 4,
D37077 Goettingen, Germany
Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
Fax. +49-551-39-2582


On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Boaz Shaanan wrote:

> A related but somewhat easier problem to fix, I would think, is the report of 
> overall-R-free value in the B option in shelxpro. The R-free value is 
> reported in the .lst and other o/p files but is not transmitted to the output 
> pdb. Here is an example:
> 
> REMARK   3 DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
> REMARK   3  RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH (ANGSTROMS) :  1.35
> REMARK   3  RESOLUTION RANGE LOW  (ANGSTROMS) : 10.00
> REMARK   3  DATA CUTOFF            (SIGMA(F)) :  0.0
> REMARK   3  COMPLETENESS FOR RANGE        (%) :  93.2
> REMARK   3  CROSS-VALIDATION METHOD           :  FREE R
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE TEST SET SELECTION   :  RANDOM
> REMARK   3  
> REMARK   3 FIT TO DATA USED IN REFINEMENT (NO CUTOFF).
> REMARK   3  R VALUE   (WORKING + TEST SET, NO CUTOFF) :  0.1749
> REMARK   3  R VALUE          (WORKING SET, NO CUTOFF) :
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE                  (NO CUTOFF) :
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE (%, NO CUTOFF) :
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT   (NO CUTOFF) :
> REMARK   3  TOTAL NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS   (NO CUTOFF) :   44691
> REMARK   3  
> REMARK   3 FIT/AGREEMENT OF MODEL FOR DATA WITH F>4SIG(F).
> REMARK   3  R VALUE   (WORKING + TEST SET, F>4SIG(F)) :  0.1635
> REMARK   3  R VALUE          (WORKING SET, F>4SIG(F)) :
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE                  (F>4SIG(F)) :
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE (%, F>4SIG(F)) :
> REMARK   3  FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT   (F>4SIG(F)) :
> REMARK   3  TOTAL NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS   (F>4SIG(F)) :   35043
> 
>  Best wishes,
> 
>                     Boaz
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George M. Sheldrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, October 8, 2007 11:16
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree statistics in SHELXL
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> 
> > SHELX is much older than the free R so this was added as an 
> > afterthought, 
> > and unfortunately I did not think of calculating R-free for just 
> > the outer 
> > resolution shell. There isn't an easy way of doing this without 
> > some 
> > programmeing effort. I also think that it is NOT a good idea, in 
> > the outer 
> > resolution shell you may only about 100 reflections in your free 
> > R set, so 
> > the free R value will have a very large esd and so could be 
> > misleading.
> > George 
> > 
> > Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
> > Dept. Structural Chemistry, 
> > University of Goettingen,
> > Tammannstr. 4,
> > D37077 Goettingen, Germany
> > Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
> > Fax. +49-551-39-2582
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Oliv Eidam wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear all,
> > > 
> > > I used SHELXL for anisotropic structure refinement of high-
> > resolution data
> > > (1.3 Angstroem) and a reviewer asked me to include refinement 
> > statistics for
> > > the outer most resolution shell in the crystallographic table. 
> > While R-factors
> > > for the outer most resolution shell belong to the standard 
> > output in REFMAC or
> > > CNS, it seems to me that SHELXL calculates R-factors only for 
> > reflections of
> > > the work set. I also noticed that test reflections are missing 
> > in the
> > > structure factor file (.fcf file) generated by shelxpro, 
> > preventing me to use
> > > the [S] or [L] options in shelxpro to calculate R(free) statistics.
> > > Is it simply not possible to calculate the R(free) factor for 
> > the outer most
> > > shell after SHELX refinement? Or is there a problem with my 
> > SHELX program?
> > > 
> > > Many thanks for your answers and suggestions,
> > > 
> > > Oliv
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Oliv Eidam
> > > 
> > > Department of Biochemistry
> > > University of Zurich
> > > Winterthurerstrasse 190
> > > 8057 Zurich, Switzerland
> > > 
> > > Phone: 0041-44-635-6563
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Web:   http://www.bioc.uzh.ch/gruetter
> > > NCCR:  http://www.structuralbiology.ethz.ch
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
> Dept. of Life Sciences
> Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer-Sheva 84105
> Israel
> Phone: 972-8-647-2220 ; Fax: 646-1710
> Skype: boaz.shaanan‎
> 

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