Dear fellow crystallographers,

I'd like to add yet another piece to the ongoing discussion about C3b & Co., and the importance of submitting diffraction images in addition to structure factors.

Partly in response to some letters that had just appeared in the same journal, on 16 July together with some colleagues I sent a one-page comment to the editor of Science exactly on this matter. You can read it here:

        http://www.biosci.ki.se/groups/ljo/tmp/diffraction_images.pdf

As you will see, what we wrote very much mirrors the general opinions that have been expressed on ccp4bb during the last couple of days. However, Science declined to publish our letter; on 2 August we therefore sent it to Nature Structural and Molecular Biology, which after a few days also deemed it "unsuitable" for the journal. Uhm!

I will not elaborate as to why such an issue should not concern these journals, considering how many crystallographic structures have been debated recently. But I felt compelled to bring this up again in this occasion, since it is quite clear that we (almost) all agree on the fact that availability of raw images would improve things. And indeed, this was the take-home message of the communication in Nature by Janssen/Read/Brünger/Gros. So I have a simple suggestion: if we are convinced that this is an idea worth pursuing, why don't we come up with a common statement concerning this issue, undersigned by all that agree on the need of making available raw diffraction images in addition to structure factors? This could be sent to RCSB, to editors of scientific journals publishing structure papers, as well as - perhaps - to an open-access journal, so that it would also be formally published and made available for free to the whole community. Hopefully, the latter might help bring the issue to the attention of funding bodies (after all, someone would eventually have to pay for the required storage media).

One last (but important) point: as it should hopefully be obvious from the tone of our original letter, our main reason for suggestion image submission was not at all to start checking everyone else's data in search for faults! In fact, it was exactly the opposite: we wanted to help saving information, not destroying it. Should we decide to go ahead and make our voice heard as a community, it would be nice if we kept this disposition...

Awaiting comments!

With best regards,

Luca

PS: Since we are talking about fabricated - oops, suspect - structures, I thought I should provide some evidence that our submissions actually took place:

        http://www.biosci.ki.se/groups/ljo/tmp/science.pdf
        http://www.biosci.ki.se/groups/ljo/tmp/nsmb.pdf

    See, they actually happened :-)


PS2: My colleagues E. Morgunova and R. Ladenstein are currently away, so I am the only person to be blamed for the above considerations.

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Karolinska Institutet
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