I'm with Bill on this one. 
 
Despite the overwhelming evidence, one must still keep in mind that the 
accused, including all authors on the manscript for this structure, have yet to 
be 'convicted' in any legal sense.  I hope the investigation is swift, thorough 
and leads to clear conclusions and satisfactory actions.
 
It is beyond me why/how the situation would have developed, how the review 
process failed and how the journal failed in its editorial responsibility, but 
it did.  
 
Consequently, there are many ethical and scientific credibility issues to be 
sorted. Public excoriation of all those involved, while seemingly justified 
because our sensibilities have been assaulted, begins to approach mob justice.
 
The discussion threads have led to some good ideas concerning raw data 
archiving, let's keep pursuing these issues within the community and improve 
the current state of the art.
 
Tom Hurley
Indiana University School of Medicine

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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] The importance of USING our validation tools



     No one knows definitively if this was fabricated.

Well, at least one person does. 

But I agree, it is important to keep in mind that the proper venue for
determining guilt or innocence in the case of fraud is the court system.

Until fairly recently, the idea of presumed innocence and the right to
cross-examine accusers and witnesses has been considered fundamental to
civil society.

The case certainly sounds compelling, but this is all the more reason to
adhere to these ideals.

Bill Scott

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