Dear Sir or madam,

 I have some questions about refmac5.

 I am new to Refmac. I optimized the structure with CNS (Rwork: 23%, Rfree: 
25%).

Cell :    71.480    71.480   151.813    90.000    90.000    90.000
Space group p43212
resolution 100 1.97

protein contain 350 amino acids.
Nmol/asym: 1

number of amino acids built: 330
number of  waters:330
three glycerols 
six sulfate ions.



My friends told me that refmac5 will get lower Rfree and Rfactor.
 
 I refined the pdb structure from CNS using restrained refinement.

      Ncyc   Rfact   Rfree     FOM         LLG  rmsBOND  rmsANGLE rmsCHIRAL $$
$$

using TLS:
         0   0.215   0.221    0.763      165320.6    0.006    1.250    0.092
         1   0.189   0.230    0.751      162623.7    0.022    1.680    0.116
         2   0.187   0.233    0.751      162500.2    0.022    1.724    0.119
         3   0.185   0.239    0.747      162269.0    0.022    1.790    0.123
         4   0.185   0.241    0.748      162314.8    0.022    1.809    0.124
         5   0.185   0.244    0.744      162248.1    0.023    1.831    0.126
         6   0.185   0.245    0.744      162353.0    0.023    1.839    0.126
         7   0.185   0.247    0.743      162226.2    0.023    1.858    0.128
         8   0.186   0.248    0.741      162430.4    0.023    1.852    0.128
         9   0.185   0.248    0.741      162300.2    0.023    1.857    0.128
        10   0.185   0.249    0.740      162317.2    0.023    1.861    0.129


without TLS:
      Ncyc   Rfact   Rfree     FOM         LLG  rmsBOND  rmsANGLE rmsCHIRAL $$
$$
         0   0.217   0.223    0.764      166172.2    0.006    1.250    0.092
         1   0.192   0.234    0.752      163514.5    0.022    1.676    0.116
         2   0.190   0.237    0.752      163400.6    0.022    1.715    0.119
         3   0.188   0.242    0.747      163218.2    0.022    1.783    0.124
         4   0.188   0.244    0.747      163276.6    0.022    1.802    0.125
         5   0.188   0.248    0.744      163167.9    0.023    1.828    0.127
         6   0.188   0.248    0.744      163271.0    0.023    1.832    0.127
         7   0.188   0.251    0.743      163144.5    0.023    1.849    0.128
         8   0.189   0.251    0.742      163331.2    0.023    1.845    0.129
         9   0.188   0.252    0.741      163209.3    0.023    1.850    0.129
        10   0.188   0.253    0.741      163249.6    0.023    1.854    0.129


May I ask some questions?

1. Can I use the structure in zero cycle to deposit in pdb bank?
   Because its rfree is lowest  and it just come from CNS result without any 
change of B 

factor?

2. Why Rfree increase during refinement?

3. Usually,   delta(Rwork,Rfree) is lower than 3.0 percent for a good structure.
 However,  there is 7%  if using the final refinement structure. 
 How can I do to reduce Rfree?

4. I use the TLS to refine during restrained refinement. Why the result 
structure show 

that there is no tls groups? 

 The TLS format 
RANGE  'A  11.' 'A  60.' ALL
ORIGIN   -5.756  -6.929  21.439
T    -0.0229 -0.0472 -0.0103 -0.0487 -0.0019  0.0414
L     0.8419  0.3881  3.8499 -0.2446 -1.1643  0.8341
S    -0.0615 -0.0707 -0.0949 -0.1532  0.1007  0.1020  0.2434 -0.2249



 The pdb output file is shown as below.

REMARK   3   TLS DETAILS
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  : NULL



thanks


Best regards, 
  
zhong chen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2007-07-12



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