When you specify a packet size with the ping command it includes the
headers in the calculation. I use this command and the df-flag frequently
to determine the MTU of tunnels.


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Anthony Kellar <[email protected]>wrote:

> I would think that if 1500 is your MTU size...that you could never ping
> with the df bit set with a packet size of 1500.  Do you not have to account
> for the icmp header, ipv4 header, etc?
>
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> >   1. Re: MTU and Domain groups (Les Waller)
> >   2. pim accept-rp (Imran Ali)
> >   3. Re: pim accept-rp (Saleh Batouq)
> >   4. Proctor Labs (Houssam Chahine)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:05 +0200
> > From: Les Waller <[email protected]>
> > To: ccie <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MTU and Domain groups
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> > Does a ping of 1496 work, but not 1497?
> >
> > Remember in Q-in-Q the four-byte overhead, on our 3560s we need to set
> the
> > system MTU to 1504. Not sure if that is the same problem or not, but you
> > should define exactly where the break in size first as part of your
> > troubleshooting.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Eric campbell <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> First I would apologize to the other poster for inadvertently Hijacking
> >> his thread.
> >>
> >>
> >> I will start a new thread at this point and maybe That will work.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >>  I just want to start off by saying thanks to all of the regulars in the
> >> group for the consistent knowledge sharing.
> >>
> >>  I am a long time Lurker, but I have stumbled onto something which has
> me
> >> puzzled to say the least.
> >>
> >>  I am attempting to create a bridge domain between two interfaces on an
> >> ASR 1006 and am running into a strange MTU issue.
> >>
> >>
> >> Everything is working fine I am tunneling my q-in-q/802.1q traffic
> >> popping and pushing the necessary tags and what not, however when I try
> >> to ping accross it using a 1500 byte packet with the df bit set i
> >> cannot. I can ping across it with a 1400 byte packet but of course this
> >> is not the magic number.
> >>
> >>  I have tried setting the MTU at the
> >> interfaces involved (gig interfaces) but cannot for the life of me
> >> figure out why this is happening. This happens with a single tag as well
> >> as a stack of them. I do not have a BDI interface at the moment, but I
> >> am not sure i really need one since I am transiting the box. The only
> >> thing that i am able to think of at the moment is some sort of system
> >> wide MTU setting. This may become a no duh moment for me in the end, but
> >> I cannot find the command if it exists. Any guidance would be
> >> appreciated. If there is any information that is lacking let me know and
> >> i will get it out here.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a rather small test environment at the moment.
> >>
> >> I have an Adtran 8044 -  directly to the ASR on gig 0/1/1 the ASR then
> >> bridges this traffic to the interface Gig 0/1/2 -  which then places it
> on
> >> the wire as a single tagged trunk going into a 6509 trunk port and
> finally
> >> terminating on an SVI.  On the other side of the Adtran is a simple
> laptop
> >> connected to the 8044 which is where I am originating the 1500 byte
> pings
> >> that terminate to the SVI on the 6509.
> >>
> >> The 8044 simply takes the packet in as a native packet in this case,
> >> applies a 802.1q tag to it, and then ships it out a trunk port to the
> ASR.
> >> The 8044 has a MTu set at 2000 on this port, The ASR has an interface
> level
> >> MTU of 1600 and the 6509 has an MTU of 1500. Also I have tried it with
> the
> >> MTu set at Max on the 6509 as well. Like I said I am sure that in a
> setup
> >> as small as this the answer is staring me in the eye.
> >>
> >> Since the 6509 is receiving a trunk port off of the ASR with a single
> tag
> >> applied I feel the problem is probably not there. The Adtran takes the
> >> taffic in from the laptop at 1500 MTU and then applies its tag then
> >> shipping it out.
> >>
> >> I have also tried performing this ping from a 7206 I have that is spare
> >> set up like the laptop in this case using the same parameters.
> >>
> >> Thanks for assisting
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Thanks to all,
> >>  Eric
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:58:55 +0300
> > From: Imran Ali <[email protected]>
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] pim accept-rp
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > hi all
> >
> > guys if  we are using auto rp , and   let say  task  suggest  we allow
>  only
> > *,G joins  only for active groups.
> >
> > do we need  to allow auto rp groups  in  accept rp ?
> >
> > ip pim  accept-rp  auto  ALLOWED
> >
> > ip  access-list  ALLOWED
> > permit   224.0.1.40
> > permit 224.0.1.39
> > permit  224.1.1.1
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 12:13:21 +0400
> > From: Saleh Batouq <[email protected]>
> > To: Imran Ali <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] pim accept-rp
> > Message-ID:
> >    <caezok32zd7ou9nx2uc1qy9la-m6+mchof921l4fbap8j05k...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I understand from your question is that you need to only use the SHARED
> > TREE (*,G) and not to build the SOURCE BASED TREE (S,G) so you have only
> > two options.
> > 1. ip pim spt-threshold infinity ACL . where the ACL is a standard acl
> that
> > specify the Groups.
> > 2. biderectional pim. Enabled in your network.
> > On May 13, 2013 10:04 AM, "Imran Ali" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> hi all
> >>
> >> guys if  we are using auto rp , and   let say  task  suggest  we allow
> >> only
> >> *,G joins  only for active groups.
> >>
> >> do we need  to allow auto rp groups  in  accept rp ?
> >>
> >> ip pim  accept-rp  auto  ALLOWED
> >>
> >> ip  access-list  ALLOWED
> >> permit   224.0.1.40
> >> permit 224.0.1.39
> >> permit  224.1.1.1
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 11:29:56 +0300
> > From: Houssam Chahine <[email protected]>
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Proctor Labs
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> >
> > I have a small question dedicated to the Teachers,
> >
> > I am practicing recently using proctor labs, and my question is, is there
> > any possibility once you load the initial configuration, it doesn't load
> > perfectly? Today i was doing Vol3-Lab2C. Many tasks that i was supposed
> to
> > configure was already there, for example:
> >
> > 1- I was supposed to enable " Portfast Trunk" on the appropriate
> interfaces
> > but it was already there.
> > 2- I am supposed to have a problem pinging BB1, but i didn't face any
> > problem pinging it.
> > 3- on Cat1 fa 0/11 i was supposed to disable port security for mac
> > 0006.5331.9e41 which was not there... instead i had a log error since the
> > moment i typed my credentials, "Security violation caused by MAc
> > 0000.0000.0001 ...
> > 4- There is still some that didn't come to my mind now.
> >
> > In brief, for the second time so far, once i compare the initial config
> of
> > some devices to the initial config file that comes with the book, i found
> > there is difference, or the task that i am suppose to accomplish, is
> > already preconfigured.
> >
> > Please advise.
> >
> >
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