try reading this
http://blog.ioshints.info/2011/07/penultimate-hop-popping-php-demystified.html


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Narendra Naukwal <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for looking into, however, I am not sure if i understand it
> completly.
> My question is For what routes will a PE advertise an IMPLICIT NULL label?
> I know it does advertises Implicit null (LDP value 3 or TDP Value 1) for
> prefixes that need an IP lookup on the PE itslef.
> The only route types that come to my mind are route 'Connected'on PE &
> Routes 'Aggregated'for PE.
>
> By the way a router will generate a MPLS label for every prefix installed
> in RIB via IGP. This I beleive has nothing to do with implicit null.
>
> For Example:
> R3----mpls----R1---R2 (2.2.2.2)
> |              |
> (3.3.3.3)   (1.1.1.1)
>
> MPLS is not enabled on the link between R1 & R2 & OSPF is the configured
> IGP. R1 learns about 2.2.2.2 via OSPF
>
> R1#sh ip route ospf
>      2.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O       2.2.2.2 [110/11] via 12.0.0.2, 00:20:44, FastEthernet0/0
>      3.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O       3.3.3.3 [110/11] via 13.0.0.3, 00:20:13, FastEthernet0/1
> Although MPLS is  not enabled between R1 & R2, however, R1 still genarates
> & advertises a label to R3 (100 in this case).
>
> R1#sh mpls forwarding-table
> Local  Outgoing    Prefix            Bytes tag  Outgoing   Next Hop
> tag    tag or VC   or Tunnel Id      switched   interface
> 100    Untagged    2.2.2.2/32        0          Fa0/0      12.0.0.2
> 101    Pop tag     3.3.3.3/32        0          Fa0/1      13.0.0.3
> R1 advertises this to R3 & R3 uses 100 as otugoing label:
> R3#sh mpls forwarding-table
> Local  Outgoing    Prefix            Bytes tag  Outgoing   Next Hop
> tag    tag or VC   or Tunnel Id      switched   interface
> 300    100         2.2.2.2/32        0          Fa0/0      13.0.0.1
> 301    Pop tag     1.1.1.1/32        0          Fa0/0      13.0.0.1
> So the question remains, is there a scenario in IPv4 or VPNv4 when an EDGE
> router will advertise an Implicit label aprt for connected & aggregated
> routes?
>
> Thank You.
>  *From:* Nicola Arnoldi <[email protected]>
> *To:* Narendra Naukwal <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 7 April 2013 7:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MPLS - PHP
>
> It is used as well for every route the Edge LSR learns from a PE to CE
> routing protocol. No MPLS=PHP.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Narendra Naukwal 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> Experts,
>
> Is there a scenario wherein an Edge LSR signals an Implicit Null label to
> its directly connected Upstream neighbor for a subnet other which is not
> Connected or Summarized on the Edge LSR?
>
> Thank You.
> Naren
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