Thanks Marco I realised that after I hit send.  Clever me!

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On 21/12/2012, at 3:59 AM, "Marko Milivojevic" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael,
> 
> You may be mixing up BSR and MA here. BSR is sent to 224.0.0.13 (All
> PIM Routers; link-local) with the TTL of 1. MA sends traffic to
> 224.0.1.40 (globally routable) with the TTL set using the "scope"
> keyword during the configuration.
> 
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
> 
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi there please read this article:
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/solutions_docs/ip_multicast/White_papers/frm_rlay.html#wp1029926
>> It should answer all your questions.  It is a good read.
>> I don't think placing the Mapping agent on a spoke is supported and I doubt 
>> you would ever need to do it.
>> Remember too if you are using sparse mode, make sure to enable IP pim autorp 
>> listener on each router, as it allows those two groups for autorp to run in 
>> dense mode.  If anyone else has any input or corrections please contribute.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 20/12/2012, at 7:10 PM, "Baldeep Birdy" 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so what's the purposed of the TTL in - ip pim send-rp-discovery scope 
>> ttl-value
>> 
>> I thought by setting this you can control/or permit the flow of your RP 
>> MAppings to routers who want to learn???
>> 
>> Thanks
>> B
>> 
>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> CC: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Multicasting NBMA Frame-Relay and AutoRP
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:05:06 +0000
>>> 
>>> Auto RP mapping agent traffic had a ttl of 1. You cannot change that. Hub 
>>> must be MA.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 20/12/2012, at 4:13 PM, "Baldeep Birdy" 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So I've been spending a lot of time on multicasting and today was playing 
>>>> with the deployment of AutoRP within a FR Cloud. I have my RP at the hub 
>>>> site, with my MA deployed at a spoke. Straight away I ran into issues with 
>>>> my MA announcements, on 224.0.1.40, being sent to my other spoke routers, 
>>>> to the hub site no issues. Note, that this was intended to further cement 
>>>> my understanding of frame-relay concepts and also mcast.
>>>> 
>>>> Now my thought process was that the 224.0.1.40 annoucements are not 
>>>> getting to my spoke, they are being sent to the hub who is not forwarding 
>>>> them on. I then remembered that these announcements are sent to your PIM 
>>>> neighbours only, and my initial thought was that enabling autorp listener 
>>>> on the hub would resolve the issue. Alas no, would like someone to explain 
>>>> this.
>>>> 
>>>> Second though, ok I need to get the spokes to become neighbours, I 
>>>> configured frame-relay map ip statements, with the broadcast command, 
>>>> between my spokes but again no result.
>>>> 
>>>> Final thought, setup a GRE tunnel between them and configure PIM on the 
>>>> tunnel, with the required static mroute to fix my RFP failure, result 
>>>> worked.
>>>> 
>>>> So going back I'm now a little confused about points 1 and 2. Clearly I've 
>>>> got a gap in my theory.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. AutoRP listener, causes the router to flood autorp messages within the 
>>>> environment, so why not from the hub down to spokes? I configured no ip 
>>>> split horizon on the interface thinking is it a split horizon issue, but 
>>>> this is for routing right? so a red herring?
>>>> 
>>>> 2. With the frame-relay map statements, why didn't my spokes become 
>>>> neighbours? I have broadcast statements so the packets would have been 
>>>> unicasted out?
>>>> 
>>>> I've read that the MA SHOULD be placed at the hub, so it has full 
>>>> communication. Short of using a GRE tunnel is this my only option? There 
>>>> has to be an alternative, what am I missing.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Bal
>>>> 
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