Ha, got me on that one! Yes, they'd need to specify the df-bit.

Here's my question on interpretation then... Cisco's documentation on QQ
tunneling states that you "must" bump the MTU:

"Because the IEEE 802.1Q tunneling feature increases the frame size by 4
bytes when the metro tag is added, you *must* configure all switches in the
service-provider network to be able to process maximum frames by increasing
the switch system MTU size to at least 1504 bytes." (emphasis mine, source
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/12.2_46_se/configuration/guide/swtunnel.html#wp1001068
)

With this in mind, should we not assume that means we have to do it, as the
config guide states it as a "must"? Just like MTU on PPPoE interfaces --
I've configured PPPoE dialer interfaces just fine without specifying 1492
MTU, but every time you see an official example config (or an IPExpert DSG
solution as well!) they specify the MTU. I have assumed that means I damn
well better do it too if I want points on such a task.

What do you think, Marko?


On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> > And if the grading script used "ping X.X.X.X size 1500" to test? :-)
>
> It would still work, since packets would be fragmented ;-). On the
> other hand, if they added "df-bit" to that command... another story.
>
> That said - unless the lab asks for 1500-byte payload, I wouldn't
> bother with it. Then again, if you think rebooting a switch won't take
> from your time, why not do it and not worry? Just keep in mind that
> changing "system mtu" will change IP MTU as well, which may have
> impact for routing protocols running on the switch. Luckily, you can
> fix that without a reboot with "system mtu routing"
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
>
> >
> > How about routing adjacencies? Might OSPF get tripped up by neighbors
> > agreeing they have 1500 byte MTU, but not being able to actually pass
> 1500
> > during LSADB sync?
> >
> > The devil is in those details.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Mills, Derek <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Good questions Bob and I guess I need to know the answers. Perhaps my
> >> downfall is that I would configure it, run a few various pings to verify
> >> the reachability requirement, and would count those points when there
> are
> >> no other lab requirements indicating that an mtu change is
> warranted.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> *From:* Bob McCouch [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:17 AM
> >> *To:* Mills, Derek
> >> *Cc:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Dot1q Tunnel and MTU****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Hi Derek,****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> You say "most times" and you are correct. What are the times it wouldn't
> >> work? How might those times bite you either while configuring later
> >> elements of your lab, or how they might test your solution with a
> grading
> >> script?****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> We must learn the right thing to do, even if IOS doesn't warn you about
> >> something. :-)****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Mills, Derek <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:****
> >>
> >> Most times configuring dot1q tunnel in the lab will work just fine
> without
> >> changing the MTU on the switches. What is the opinion on whether we
> should
> >> change it or not? If there is a specific task requirement for it there
> is
> >> no question, but is it expected and standard procedure just to increase
> it
> >> ALL the time when you configure it? Will you miss the points if you
> don't
> >> configure it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> DEREK MILLS
> >> <><
> >>
> >>
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