I will, however, agree with you to an extent - if you're stuck, and you ask a 
question but at least demonstrate you have tried to help yourself (like you 
would when approaching a proctor during the exam) you're likely to get a better 
response.
 
Also - I didn't mean to be quite so agressive - I work with many people from 
overseas and in this region (Middle East) there are some very bright 
individuals but due to the cultural differences they tend to agree with you 
even when they _know_ what you're saying is wrong - it's annoying but somethign 
you get used to ;)
 
Liq.
 

--- On Tue, 12/4/11, Jay McMickle <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 33
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, 12 April, 2011, 4:47



Well put.

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
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On Apr 11, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Liqua <[email protected]> wrote:









Sometimes the simple concepts can escape you and it requires the explanation of 
a 3rd party to help or clarify - I had that trouble at college, for example, 
with some maths - Complext spacial geometry equations I could solve in my head 
but some "easy to others" integration problems I struggled with ...
 
Better to ignore the "simple" questions than to reply & sound like an elitist 
moron, as after all, I am classed as "overseas" and to me every question 
asked by you "locals" could have been googled / searched for in the archives.  
... 'Jus sayin' of course ;-) 
 
Liq.


--- On Tue, 12/4/11, Jay McMickle <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 33
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, 12 April, 2011, 3:01


Man, you guys are rough, but I agree that the bar has been lowered for those 
allowed within this group. If someone can't google, surely the CCIE should be 
off limits, right? ;)

I think this is also a culture difference where overseas, it's not frowned upon 
to go from thought to email without a filter, research, or self-analysis. 'Jus 
sayin'.

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
Sent from my iPhone
http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com


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> Does anyone can explain to me about offset-list as I kind of confused with
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> Hi Expert,
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> Does anyone can explain to me about offset-list as I kind of confused with
> it. also, in my opinion that wild card mask is reverse of subnet mask, but
> someone told me it isn't ?
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> Offset list modifies/adds/offsets the metric to be some other value and a 
> wildcard mask is an inverted subnet mask. 
> 
> Have you thought about getting your CCNA? 
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> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] offset-list and wild card mask
> 
> Hi Expert,
> 
> Does anyone can explain to me about offset-list as I kind of confused with 
> it. also, in my opinion that wild card mask is reverse of subnet mask, but 
> someone told me it isn't ?
> 
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> Offset list is used to increment the metric of certain routes.
> 
> In a wildcard mask a binary 0 means the bit must match and a binary 1 means
> it does not have to match. This is reverse logic compared to a normal subnet
> mask. Also, unlike a subnet mask the 1's and 0's do not need to be
> contiguous.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Uli <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Expert,
>> 
>> Does anyone can explain to me about offset-list as I kind of confused with
>> it. also, in my opinion that wild card mask is reverse of subnet mask, but
>> someone told me it isn't ?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
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> Jay Taylor
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> 
> 
> Hello Uli,
> 
> The offset-list is supposed to affect the metric of a route. The wildcard 
> mask is something that any CCNA should know about. But to answer your 
> question yes it is the inverse of the original mask. 
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:04:04 +0700
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] offset-list and wild card mask
>> 
>> Hi Expert,
>> 
>> Does anyone can explain to me about offset-list as I kind of confused with
>> it. also, in my opinion that wild card mask is reverse of subnet mask, but
>> someone told me it isn't ?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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