Gang -

As all of you guys know - we also ban the email and IP address.....it's too bad, but it's gotta be done.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: [email protected]
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

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On Jul 20, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]> wrote:

ccievoicelabs.com
Some idiot (kind of funny you mention the "man in the mirror"--the idiot who posted was "named" Mikal Jackson) just posted a set of v2 labs here a couple days ago. Don't know how close they are to the actual lab. For Cisco to decide.

Looks like it's based in India according to the samspade entry: I love the street address: They should have added, knock on the red door three times and utter the words "Luca Brasi sent me"
Domain name: ccievoicelabs.com
 Registrant Contact:
    CCIEVOICELABS
    Shabbir Hussain ()
    Fax:
    Qasae-E-Ayesha  Behind radhabai Hospital
    Near Mahim Kapad Bazar
    Mumbai  MAHARASHTRA 400016
    IN

From: Eman [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:19 PM
To: Michael Ciarfello; 'Larry Hadrava'; 'Cisco certification'; [email protected] ; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Amnesty?

I am sworn to silence on the subject for 1 week. Believe me you will hear as soon as I can share. But this past week I was instrumental in having one site removed and Rent-A-Cert (the company) given a strict warning about their activities.


Give me names of companies selling test questions and my best friend at Cisco will act swiftly!



Eman (Emmanuel Conde)

CCIE Agent™



CCIE Flyer

302-438-1681



From: Michael Ciarfello [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:05 PM
To: Eman; 'Larry Hadrava'; 'Cisco certification'; [email protected] ; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Amnesty?



That's great.



So what can you and your best friend do about companies selling supposed CCIE test questions / test content? That's also a NO NO adn there's also got to be a way to stop that.



And it makes the test harder for the rest of us, becasue now they have to play tricks on us and make the test a Suduko puzzle.





From: Eman [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:44 PM
To: Michael Ciarfello; 'Larry Hadrava'; 'Cisco certification'; [email protected] ; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Amnesty?

The two CCIEs who recently were revoked lived in Asia Pac and claimed to work for a channel in Pakistan. This really sucks since in Pakistan they have CCIEs who need work! But I hated to be a part of any CCIE losing their number so I begged for this program and they gave it to me. So help me get the word out!



Eman (Emmanuel Conde)

CCIE Agent™



CCIE Flyer

302-438-1681



From: Michael Ciarfello [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:54 PM
To: Larry Hadrava; Cisco certification; <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] ; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Amnesty?



Yea, Cisco is really coming down on this (it's good thing). During your next audit, you have to PROVE that the CCIE WORKS for you, etc. Just no details are known yet on exactly how that is going to be proven or what mechanisms are acceptible. I'm sure one way would be the Cisco AM / SE statement. "nope, never heard of him--never seen him walking the halls, on a conference call, etc."





From: [email protected] [ccie_voice- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Hadrava [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:59 PM
To: Cisco certification; <[email protected]>; [email protected] ; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Amnesty?

I received this note from Eman a little while ago and he asked me to share it with you.



I cannot confirm or deny any of this, but I have been faced with this situation before.

For direct questions please contact Eman: [email protected]





CCIE Amnesty Program

What does amnesty mean? Well it has been years since I thumbed through my Funk and Wagnalls dictionary so I could not actually find it! Instead I hopped on-line and looked it up.

Noun1.amnesty - a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment

Verb1.amnesty - grant a pardon to (a group of people)

If you have not been informed there are many ways to use your CCIE number. A few of these methods are frowned upon by Cisco and can even cost you that hard earned number. Yes, recently I personally witnessed the revoking of a pair of CCIEs who had associated their numbers to a channel they did not work for. This is strictly forbidden by Cisco and can result in severe penalties to the Channel and the CCIE. (see http://www.itworld.com/networking/69359/innocuous-or-unethical )

I felt pretty badly about the CCIEs losing their certifications and wanted to help prevent this as much as I can. So I called Monica (my best friend at Cisco) and we put our heads together to come up with a solution. From this chat the CCIE Amnesty program was born.

The rules are very clear about CCIEs whose numbers are used to help advance channel partners reseller status. The CCIE must work and live where the company is located. Number associations have been done in some creative ways both with and without the CCIE’s particip ation. As I described in February on my blog http://www.ccieagent.com/ in the story , “CCIE Hostage Stand-Off”, sometimes unsuspecting CCIEs are fooled by a company simply to get them to associate their number. The company in this story after passing the Cisco Audit put the CCIEs on unpaid leave. In other cases the CCIE simply succumbs to the temptation to associate their number because their real empl oyer has no use for it. So they get a small fee for the number and are never utilized by the company, I call this a Rent-A-Cert. This is a name used by a company acting as a recruiting company but in a ctuality putting certified individuals in harm’s way.

Here’s our plan, for the next 90 days I am asking any CCIE who is in a situation where their CCIE number is associated with a company th ey are not really working for to step forward and I will have their number released from that employer with no repercussions or penaltie s. The company will then have nine months to resolve their need and the CCIE will help another CCIE have a shot at a real job. Think a bout it, if you have your number associated with a company that need s the number you are taking a job away from another CCIE who needs a job.

How to proceed.

Send me an email [email protected] and I will call you to begin the process. I will keep you out of hot water and help the channel partner replace you with a real CCIE to join their staff. If you are the victim of a channel that is holding your number against your will I will help release your number also without reprisals to the channel partner in question.

Tell your friends tell your coworkers but most of all tell the man in the mirror (ala Michael Jackson) it’s wrong so let’s clean it up! There is an effort to identify the fraudulent associations so p lease take advantage of this amnesty before you get a letter from Ci sco about your CCIE number being revoked!

 Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203 CCNP
Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com

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