Clara, 

I was a wildlife science major at Cornell from 1968-1972. I spent much time 
outside birding, hunting, fishing and taking courses all over the southern tier 
of upstate NY. I do not recall seeing a raven anywhere in the southern tier 
during my tenure at Cornell. I probably saw or heard ravens in the Adirondacks 
but do not affirmatively remember. 

I spent my career working as a fish and wildlife biologist consulting to the 
utility industry, for the most part. As an aside, the company I worked for 
initially, Ichthyological Associates, Inc. (and ultimately retired from a 
successor to IA), was started by Dr. Edward C. Raney, who mostly hired his 
students to staff projects around the eastern US. 

Many, many years later, in the fall of 2004, I was on a project at a proposed 
wind power site near Hornby NY, about half way between Corning and Watkins 
Glen. We had been hired to monitor raptor, songbird and waterfowl migration as 
part of the permitting and impact assessment process for a utility scale wind 
energy project. I spent many days looking at a mostly empty field where the 
monitoring site was located. I recall that I did not see a single migrating 
raptor during many days of observation. 

However I did observe resident red-tailed hawks, northern harriers and common 
ravens on a daily basis. One day I was watching an adult harrier coursing over 
the fields hunting. I was enjoying the harrier show when a single raven showed 
up and took up an aerial position behind and slightly higher than the harrier. 
The raven mimicked every move that the harrier made until the harrier turned 
over in the air and struck at the raven with its talons. The raven hopped up in 
the air, dropped back a few feet as the harrier righted itself and continued 
flying low over the field. As soon as the harrier resumed hunting, the raven 
resumed its mimicking flight until again the harrier struck at the raven. This 
process continued for about 20 min. I could usually see the birds naked eye but 
I also had binoculars and a scope. I watched in amazement as the aerial show 
went on for about 20 minutes. Finally the raven moved off and the harrier flew 
to another field. 

I speculated then, and now, as to why the raven mimicked the harrier. Was it 
planning to steal a mouse from the harrier? Was it simply demonstrating its 
flying prowess to the harrier and itself? Was it playing? I like to believe 
that the behavior was play with the potential benefit of a stolen meal. 

One thing for certain is that the raven was every bit as light in the air and 
accomplished a flyer as was the harrier. And we all know that harriers appear 
magical in the way that they soar, flutter, kite and drop to the ground on 
wings a buoyant as a helium-filled balloon. 

Rob Blye 


Robert W. Blye 
300 Sanatoga Road 
Pottstown, PA 19465-7985 
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From: "Asher Hockett" <[email protected]> 
To: "Ray Zimmerman" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "cayugabirds-l" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:35:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry 

In my neighborhood on S Danby Rd, we have a fair number of Ravens. More often 
than not we hear them but do not see them, and the range of sounds they produce 
is truly staggering. This year I have heard at least 4 vocalizations which were 
new to me. 

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Ray Zimmerman < [email protected] > wrote: 



Speaking of ravens, few days ago while waiting for the bus along Snyder Hill 
Rd. two ravens flew by. I noticed them when one vocalized, making a sound my 
neighbor described as a Star Wars light saber sort of sound, before reverting 
to the normal raven croaking. Sorry I don’t have a better description, but I 
was wondering if that is one of their known vocalizations? I don’t remember 
ever hearing it before. 

Ray 




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On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Clara MacCarald < [email protected] > wrote: 

Hi all, 

I'm looking for raven stories for an article in the Finger Lakes Community 
Newspapers. I had a nice conversation with Kevin McGowan about the local 
population, but I'd like to include some anecdotes from other birders. If you'd 
like to tell me about ravens, please contact me off list. 

Any help is appreciated. Even if you only ever see crows and hear ravens, that 
would be interesting. Or if you found Kevin's video, Caw vs. Croak, helpful. 

Thanks in advance, 
Clara MacCarald 

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