I don't know if this is against list serve protocol - but I rent my home which is on the Northern end of Cayuga Lake near Montezuma. It is a fabulous spot for birding and fall migration. If interested check out: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1274677
Weekend rentals in fall or full weeks. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Carol Keeler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Diana. My experiences have been much the same as hers. When > people get out of their cars the birds either fly away or move out farther > which makes it more difficult for most photographers and those without > scopes. The Refuge needs to enforce and clarify their rules. Why did the > Refuge, long ago, change it to no one out of their cars? If they allow > walking there again, it will take a long time for the birds to become used to > people out of their cars. I've always believed that using the car as a blind > allows one to see more. But I guess if I could get out of the car I could > sit down by the water in a bag blind to photograph and bird. Again, the > refuge would need to post rules on how far off the road one could go. Just > more complications. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Diana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> I thought I might way in on this discussion about whether birds are >> disturbed by people out of their cars. As a photographer, I can say it most >> certainly does. Anytime that people are out of their vehicles, the birds are >> gone or moved a considerable distance away when I have been in the wake of >> this behavior. I find it is both photographer and birders with scopes that >> are guilty of this. Personally, things viewed with a scope are not of >> interest to me, so yes, it does make a difference if people out of cars push >> the birds further away. I find that no one seems to be enforcing the rule >> as it stands because people have told me that the refuge vehicles drove by >> them and did not say anything. It has been very frustrating to photograph >> anything especially this year with this turn of events, so I too would like >> clarification of what is allowed. If people did stay in their car, it would >> allow for others to see more in my opinion. I know in other areas, birds are >> less shy, but it does not seem to be the case here. I realize that most >> people are unaware that they change things by not staying in their car, but >> I think I get my best opportunities and views if I practice patience and >> keeping a low profile using my vehicle as a blind. >> >> >> Diana Whiting >> >> Diana Whiting >> dianawhitingphotography.com >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
