I dont think i asked anything bout using queries......i just wanted to
know wht would be the best practice......but thnx for the info...will
avoid $this->Model->query()

On Sep 24, 4:32 pm, Rafael Bandeira aka rafaelbandeira3
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First of all people: what Rule? It's not made of rules, it's a pattern
> to follow - but follow as you want.
> Second, no, it doesn't "break the Rule" it only makes your code uglier
> and hard to read - see above - but the thing is,
> why to use a hand made query when you can easily/prettier/"readablier"
> use Model built-in methods to accomplish the same?
>
> About performing custom find methods, with default/mandatory/pre-
> defined params you should read:
>
> >  http://rafaelbandeira3.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/the-new-way-to-define...
> >  http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/09/23/an-alternative-way-to-define-cus...
>
> About the rules:
> Even being annoying, executing hand made queries on the controller
> still leaves all the data transaction and structuration on the Model
> side,
> and it lets the pattern intended to be followed intact, but it's not
> the best practice. If even following the links presented - and links
> cited inside them, you
> still not find the solution for a more complex and featured query, try
> to implement it inside a model method to make your controller cleaner:
>
> $this->Model->find("where id=xyz")
> becomes
> $this->Model->find('axis', array('id' => 'xyz')); // following those
> links
> or
> $this->Model->getByAxis($axis);
>
> But in the specific case you presented, you could easily use Model
> methods overload by calling $this->Model->findById($id), $this->Model-
>
> >findBy<FieldName>($fieldValue);
>
> Still thinks that executing queries is needed?
>
> rafaelbandeira3http://rafaelbandeira3.wordpress.com
>
> > but i heared if you direct query in controller will violate the MVC
> > rule
>
> > i.e if you use $this->Model->query("select * from models");
>
> > the above query will violate the MVC rule.
>
> > i heared the queries shouldnotbe written in controller it should be
> > inmodeli.e in urmodel.php
>
> > even i am alsonotabsolute on this part
>
> > On Sep 23, 2:33 pm, forrestgump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hey guys,
> > >  Considering the fact that CakePhp follows the MVC architecture, id
> > > like to know...y we dont make function calls such as $this->find("where 
> > > id=xyz") from function blocks typed out in Models rather
>
> > > than controllers....im sure there is a logical reason to it...but
> > > someone asked me this question and i couldnotgive her a good enuf
> > > answer....does making function calls to queries like find(), save()
> > > work better in models or controllers?.....and is it good practice to
> > > pass conditions in your function call while using it in a controller?
> > > eg find("where id=1") ;
>
> > > Does using $this->find() in controller violate the MVC architecture in
> > > any manner?
>
> > > Can someone please clarify these question for us?
>
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > forrestgump
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