There is only really one main thing I would like to see changed about
the cookbook. That is the way proposals are forever hidden from me
after I initially post them. Being abel to not only add, but edit and
update a section not yet approved would make it easier for us
outsiders to contribute. At least sections that I added myself. Also I
have no idea if 10 others have written unapproved sections on the same
topic and I am not aware of any mechanism the reviewers can use to
provide feedback and request changes from authors. Since the review
process can take a while these thing could help distribute the
workload and result in higher quality content sooner.

/Martin


On May 13, 7:25 am, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 12, 1:15 pm, Aaron  Shafovaloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I propose that the Cake team use MediaWiki with the FlaggedRevs
> > extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs)
> > instead of their homegrown wiki, which currently has a closed review
> > process.
>
> Sorry, I wasn't aware that this was up for public discussion....
> because usually we leave these sorts of decisions to people who are
> actually, you know, doing the work.
>
> Quite a while ago, John and I decided that what we have would be the
> best solution, based on his requirements.  It's still a work-in-
> progress, but it works and it'll continue to improve.
>
> > This extension, which will be integrated into Wikipedia in
> > the coming months, allows for people to edit the draft of a page, and
> > for users with a special privilege of "reviewer" to tweak and approve
> > and even rate the proposed changes.
>
> The coming months?  How about we put something together ourselves in
> the coming weeks, or hell, days.  It is Cake after all.  Shouldn't be
> too hard assuming we can find the time.  Which of course is always the
> trick.
>
> >  - Outsiders could see not only the default last-reviewed page, but
> > also see the proposed changes. The process would be more open.
>
> >  - People could engage in MediaWik-style discussions that are attached
> > to a page.
>
> >  - Instead of a progressive chapter breakdown of the content, I would
> > hope that the Cake team would allow for larger pages to split into
> > specific topical pages. I also propose using a more comprehensive
> > front page for the wiki, which would have a handy taxonomy of links to
> > those simply using the wiki as a reference guide. This would be much
> > more intuitive than the current menu on the Cookbook.
>
> >  - The efSyntaxHighlight_GeSHiSetup MediaWiki extension could be used
> > to prettify code.
>
> All this stuff is pretty simple to add when it comes down to it.  The
> content is already organized in the database in a very granular way,
> so the display could easily be formatted differently.
>
> >  - The CakePHP team wouldn't have to bother maintaining/improving
> > their home-made wiki application. MediaWiki is a great wiki project
> > that continues to grow and be improved. Wikipedia uses it, so it's not
> > likely at all that the application development would go inactive.
>
> *Or*, we could turn it into a reference application for people
> learning the framework.
>
> >  - MediaWiki's template can be customized to the liking of the CakePHP
> > team.
>
> The problem comes when the specific needs diverge beyond what
> "template customization" allows.
>
> > I also propose that the Cookbook be put under a Creative Commons
> > license, but I hear that this is already forthcoming.
>
> The Cookbook code or the Cookbook content?  The Cookbook code is going
> to be released under the MIT license, the same as Cake itself.
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