Thanks for all the help guys :-)

On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now that's what I would have to disagree with.
>
> Who really cares if CI pulls up the static page faster than Cake? I don't
> see the point in testing something that your application isn't going to be
> reflecting. Heck, we might as well slap on a .HTML file than benchmark that
> too.
>
> I think you'd need to design the same basic application across all your
> platforms and test that.
>
> Also, by definition, benchmarking requires some sort of comparison. Hence
> the multiple platforms.
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2008 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > There are a bunch of performance comparisons out there. Most may not
> > me very relevant in a real world project but if you need numbers here
> > are a few:
> >
> > http://paul-m-jones.com/blog/?p=236
> > http://www.sellersrank.com/php/cakephp-codeigniter-benchmark/
> >
> > Note: These try to test the most basic setup.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 5:04 pm, "Tom.Maiaroto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ..oh and compared to other frameworks ??
> > >
> > > you could try and build the same app over and over and profile them
> > > all...but again it's gonna be hard and I would bet you'd get very
> > > similar results anyway.
> > > UNLESS you have some super huge monster of an app. That would be
> > > interesting to see.
> > >
> > > Like others said,  your development time is the most precious thing
> > > that Cake can help you with.
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 11:02 am, "Tom.Maiaroto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You could setup xdebug or Zend and profile your site....but
> > > > benchmarking is such a subjective thing.
> > > > It relies a lot on your server setup, etc.
> > >
> > > > What you could do is say build your own blog - and load it up with
> > the
> > > > same articles as say an installation of Wordpress or something. Then
> > > > profile both.
> > > > See the difference.
> > >
> > > > BUT that's only going to get you so far. Your specific machine's
> > > > PHP.ini, and other settings AND cpu speed/ram is different from the
> > > > host you'll be on (most likely)...AND you're testing locally - not
> > > > through the internet.
> > >
> > > > Now. A more accurate test would be to run the same test on the host
> > > > you'll be at...but can you get xdebug or something like that setup
> > on
> > > > your host?
> > >
> > > > Also, you've just gone through a bunch of time to find out if you
> > can
> > > > build an application faster than Wordpress or Drupal or Joomla! or
> > > > whatever.
> > >
> > > > My bet, you did build one faster...because all those systems load
> > > > extra things you probably don't have when you build a custom
> > solution.
> > >
> > > > These CMS' out there try to cover all the bases best they can. That
> > > > means a lot of overhead. A custom solution is -usually- going to be
> > > > faster.
> > >
> > > > Plus it's super hard to test for this anyway given all the
> > variables.
> > > > Just know that CakePHP has some really great scalability and
> > > > performance options with many different ways to cache data, VERY
> > good
> > > > control over your queries, and along with the design pattern and
> > such
> > > > it's really efficient for OO PHP...you just have to be sure you're
> > > > writing efficient code... ie. be aware of your findAll's and what
> > > > you're bringing back...do you need it all? Be aware of your custom
> > > > functions and special operations that you're using, etc.
> > >
> > > > In my opinion - Cake's the best thing since sliced bread for web
> > apps.
> > >
> > > > On Feb 8, 9:20 am, MattC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Regarding Zoe's comment about Cake checking the db columns every
> > time
> > > > > you retrieve data, that only happens when debug is on.  Otherwise
> > the
> > > > > table schema is cached.
> > >
> > > > > In general you should look into Cake's built in caching which can
> > > > > negate a lot of the framework overhead.  Here is quick test I did
> > to
> > > > > benchmark the improvement with cache turned on:
> > http://www.pseudocoder.com/archives/2007/02/27/cakephp-cache-performa...
> > >
> > > > > That was almost a year ago and used Cake 1.1 with file based
> > caching.
> > >
> > > > > -Mattwww.pseudocoder.com
> > >
> > > > > On Feb 8, 6:26 am, Ma'moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > i am truly sure that cake is my choice when it comes to choose a
> > framework
> > > > > > from the bunch of frameworks available out there but i really
> > need to see
> > > > > > some benchmarks in order to convince my managers that cake is
> > really for it
> > > > > > and it would be our best choice, is there any benchmarks reports
> > available,
> > > > > > i would be thankful for any links being posted here or pointed
> > anywhere
> > > > > > else.
> > >
> > > > > > Regards, Ma'moon
> >
>
>
> >
>

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