That didn't seem sarcastic to me at all, but maybe you thought that
because that's becoming part of a pervasive attitude around here.  If
that's the case, we need to fix that.

Baz, you make some good points.  If you're interested, you and I can
have an offline discussion about drafting some sort of conduct policy
along the lines of your suggestions.

On Feb 11, 8:05 pm, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, I was just trying to help. CakePHP has opened a lot of doors for
> me, but I personally think that the process could be a lil' less
> painful.
>
> On Feb 11, 2008 6:43 PM, DragonI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Baz,
>
> > You've hit the nail on the head from both ends :) You should post this
> > on your blog.
>
> I sense sarcasm, but I can't exactly be sure...
>
> > The result will be novices/newbies will just say screw it and move on
> > to another more friendly community. The seasoned cakers will get
> > frustrated and stop helping/mentoring. This is absolutely lose lose
> > situation.
>
> The result of what, my suggestions?
>
> > The lessons I've learned over time is that no matter how good your
> > product is, if no one can use it then your product fails. Just look at
> > all of the database companies who have come and gone. My corporate
> > friends are MS SQL server freaks who love it because MS made it easier
> > to use/admin then it's father - Sybase. So look at where Sybase is
> > today compared to MS.
>
> So is there a proposal here?
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