One of your points is that information is quickly out of date - I
totally agree, and I think with that in mind on the bakery there
should be some element of editorial control and natural churn on
articles.

For example, how many recent articles are still using $html->input?
Maybe when 1.2 is more advanced, say beta, start taking these articles
out.  I'm not saying destroy them, but maybe a process of updating the
methods used to show 1.2 functionality.

Either that, or maybe a simpler way would be to check is version < 1.2
and put a "This article has been depricated" in bright red at the top.
Either way, it let's noobs know the article is no longer valid.

Tane

On 4/12/07, John David Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2007, at 3:04 PM, savagekabbage wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, that's exactly why it was taken down. However, while CakePHP has
> > a lot of documentation on the web, the API, and the forums... Most of
> > it is too hard to grasp or too steep for newbies to handle.  There are
> > countless newbies who have/have had trouble learning the framework
> > (including myself) and I believe this will be a good resource for
> > future CakePHP prospects.
> >
> > I don't see how a wiki can be any less organized or correct than a
> > Google group, so I'm going to move forward with this.
>
> savagekabbage,
>
> I've had the most first-hand experience with this, so let me chime in.
>
> First, I want to stress one thing - any non-official documentation
> effort only makes it harder for newbs to get up and running. The very
> best thing you can do, is come talk to me to see how we can beef up
> the current, official docs. We love bloggers. We love forum posters.
> We love any good press, but if you want your work to have the most
> positive impact, get your words in the official docs. That's where
> people are going to look first. That's where we'll want them to look
> first.
>
> Secondly, the Bakery is already filling the role of the old and
> (thankfully) dead CakePHP Wiki. There were a number of problems that
> we realized after using a wiki:
>
> 1. Information becomes outdated quickly, and becomes a source of
> misinformation quickly
> 2. Well meaning folks writing incorrect information was happening too
> much
> 3. There was no way to consistently tell what version of Cake a given
> piece of content was for.
> 4. Wikis grow organically and are not often well organized unless
> vigilantly moderated and pruned
>
> I won't disagree that there were some great articles. But those
> articles can now be housed in the Bakery. We can approve and maintain
> an extremely high level of quality there. Its a win for everyone -
> the community can contribute, and we can forestall and possible
> misinformation.
>
> I should also add that this google group is not a documentation
> effort, it is a support effort, which has a different aim.
>
> Thirdly, we'd ask that you do not use the CakePHP logo on your site
> like you have it now - it makes it appear that the site is official,
> which will cause confusion.
>
> I think we're all after the same thing here - is there a reason you'd
> rather not help to work and strengthen the official documentation
> instead?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> >
>

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