Yeah, now that you mention it, I agree, it is a bit of work and less 
convenient with lots of clicking!  I like your docking pane idea, it 
would fix my worry (and reason I went the Firebug route) of having 
styles clashing, particularly width of my layout.  I was mostly just 
itchy to see if I could do it though, hehe.

On Jan 28, 2:36 am, "NOSLOW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice work, gobblez! Very streamlined, efficient and commented nicely.
> It was a breeze to install in my project.  Thanks for sharing!
>
> Just had one tweak to make since I didn't have any components in my
> project:
>
>                 if (isset($var->controller->components))
>                         $g = "\nfbout['Components'] = 
> ".$this->php2js($var->controller-
>
> >components).";";Do you know if there's a way to expand all the nodes in the 
> >Firebug
> console?  Otherwise. you have to do a bit of work to see what's going
> on with all the variables. I still prefer Ovenlight because you can
> "passively" see everything going on without any clicking (with the
> exception of maybe some vertical scrolling). Navigating the Firebug
> console requires much "active" clicking to see everything. The good
> news is that you can just run both and have your choice.
>
> Also, by printing the variables to the HTML into "<div>" boxes, you
> have many presentation options with CSS and/or AJAX/DOM scripting/
> AJAX. You could add all kinds of effects to make them resizeable,
> collapsible, moveable, hideable, etc.  Since Ovenlight writes all
> these div boxes inside an outter div box (simulating a debug pane), it
> could be made to behave like a dockable pane.  Printing also works
> pretty well.
>
> I've already learned a few things from this example which I'll
> refactor into Ovenlight. That's what I was hoping for!
>
> Thanks again,
> NOSLOW


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