This will be my last post on this thread. Rational discussions simply don't seem to register in this forum.
To John, thanks for the first clear-headed response. Yes everyone should do whatever he or she prefers, and not try to convince anyone else. It was my mistake to think I could discuss a design issue rationally with fanboys. To Phpnut, I don't need to prove there is a flaw -- I just call it as I saw it. A textbook hello-world app does not work when the action name was called "list", but works with another name "lists". Whose fault? Perhaps PHP. But since the list of reserved function names in PHP is dependent on version and installed modules, this is a poor way to spec out a default behaviour for a framework that might have to support multiple hosting environment. Mathematically one counter-example is all it takes to "disprove" a framework. I already said I don't want a pissing contest, and you still persist in doing so. For the record, I said I have 5 years of coding MVC, not 5 years of coding. I started coding at 13 and I am 43 years now, so that's 30 years of IT experience beginning with PDP-11. I won't stop pulling out my dicks when I need to since I do know what I am talking about. Originally I have prepared a list of 25 design issues to raise in this forum, together with my own source code changes. But now it is clear to me how resistant to criticism the cakesters are, so I won't be bothering. For those who are watching on the side and who likes Cake, I say more power to you. My only interest is to study the framework and learn about it -- a framework that started with so much promise and accolade, I was not prepared for the denial attitudes. To be honest the quality of source code is not bad, which is why it is a big shame. This is my last post and the Marie Antoinettes in this forum can continuing telling people to eat cake, but in my opinion a little humility and reality check is sorely needed for the cake community to move ahead. A community that does not allow critics to exist will never see the truth in the emperor's new clothes. Kace sign off --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
