Submission Comment  #2   W5RH
Looking at a bit more detail in Appendix E (Page 74) their study shows
available frequency ranges within 2 to 25 MHz.   None of their proposed
bands cover any of our ham bands *EXCEPT 60 Meters, where we have 5
"channels",* but I think this is shared anyway.

Their 10, 25 and 50 KHz "channailzed space" ranges come up to the band
edges on a few ham bands NOT JUST 20 MX as has been blogged and youtubed.
Below I have outlined where their study touches our band edges (always
skirting our bands except 60 mx).   They claim throughout that they want to
cause NO Interference to existing services (ham, marine, etc.)

Their study indicates these Frequency bands available 2 to 25 MHz (ref our
bands)....
*Below     Above *
*3.4            4.0         80 is 3.5 to 4.0*
*5.4            5.0         (within 60 meters 5.3 to 5.4)*
*7.0            7.4          40 is 7.0 to 7.3*
* 9.995     10.15        30 is 10.100 to 10.150*
*14.0        14.350      20 is 14.0 to 14.350*
*18.068    18.168      17 is 18.068 to 18.168*
*21.00       21.850     15 is 21.0  to 21.450*
*24.89       End         12 is 24.890 to 24.990*

Looked up in the license database.   None of the commenting parties is a
ham except maybe John Madigan (AC0GP -- maybe).

Also, have a look at what they intend to do.  These shortwave HF links are
to benefit High-Frequency stock trading. (high frequency is not meaning RF
but the speed of the trade data xfer).   Using shortwave will reduce the
latency times for the transfer of applicable stock data.  Not using
satellites or the internet will cut milli seconds off of their transfer
times.  HFT is a crazy way to trade stocks..  Google HFT  and read on
Wikipedia.

73...Rick  W5RH



On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 6:43 PM Rick Hiller <rickhille...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A cursory read through the proposal and attached amendments shows that
> they have done their homework in all aspects.   The various companies have
> been running experiments on air for the past 4 years. (experimental call
> signs are listed)  Seems like they wish to run 20KW to a 10dBi antenna on
> transmit and have a simple vertical whip on the receive end.  They also
> propose interference avoidance and frequency jumping.... kind of like ALE.
> Freqs used were 4.9, 10.2, 14.9 19.9 and 24.8 with a bandwidth of 10 KHz.
>
> In their initial paragraphs they mention avoidance interference to
> amateur, marine and aeronautical.  No mention of military in there that I
> saw.
>
> Again, this was my 30 minute read of the various sections which means that
> I was looking for pertinent information relating to us hams.   I am
> sure there is more to be found and corrected with a further read.
>
> Just my $.02 for now.....73...Rick  W5RH
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 5:54 PM JP Pritchard via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply Bill. As Jim Heath points out in this video, the
>> deadline for comment is two weeks away. My first thought is, we might
>> (emphasis MIGHT) be better off to express our immediate concern to the ARRL
>> defense of spectrum lobbyists, in hopes that they could help convey what
>> they know to the rest of us (beyond what's in the petition) to give Ham
>> World a chance to weigh in. But whatever we do we're already late in the
>> process and big money backing this plan already has a big edge on us, if
>> there is something here to be worried about.
>>
>> Any thoughts from others? Time is running out. Let's hear it!
>>
>> JP
>>
>> On 07/15/2023 4:55 PM CDT Bill Cordell via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> JP:
>>
>> We may want to convene a committee of interested people to talk about
>> what is proposed.  There are so many variables, not to mention the costs to
>> construct and run a digital transmitter.  Also, who has digital receivers?
>> Currently there are limited AM shortwave receivers for that industry is
>> dying (like the majority of the over-the-air broadcast stations due to the
>> ubiquitous and massively increasing wireless internet)..
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On Behalf Of *JP Pritchard via
>> BVARC
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 15, 2023 3:47 PM
>> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org>
>> *Cc:* JP Pritchard <jppn...@comcast.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Will This Petition Before The FCC Bring An End To
>> Amateur Radio As We Know It Or Am I Wrong Jim W6LG - YouTube
>>
>>
>>
>> How 'bout a couple of our broadcast engineers to respond to this... Paul,
>> Bill, Chris, Bob?
>>
>> On 07/15/2023 3:25 PM CDT K5BOU via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeG00x89ATI
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: image001.png]
>>
>> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
>>
>> Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|*
>>
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>>
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