I remember working from Houston as WA5KHM, a VU ( India) at around 9PM CST,
on CW 15 meters in about 1965 when I was 15 years old.  There was a W5???
Corpus Christi ham had his antenna on a Commercial broadcast tower so it
was up maybe 100+ feet elevation.  He was too far for groundwave and too
close for direct skip.  The Corpus W5 worked the VU first, and I worked the
VU after the Corpus W5.  The VU and the W5 sounded very echoic.   For the
Corpus W5 I don't know if I was hearing Long Path followed by a second Long
Path?  ...or was I hearing atmospheric scatter as the first arrival from
Corpus, and Long Path as the second arrival.  But I heard an approximate
1/7 second between sigs which corresponds well to Earth circumference. I
remember the echo made it very hard to copy.  It seemed like *an echoed dit
filled in the blank space after the dit before it*. It muddled up a word
real good!

Figuring at ~18wpm a dit is very close to exactly the time (Morse baud =
WPM/2.4)... and it takes a signal to go around the world about one DIT time
at that WPM. (25,000miles/186000miles/seconds ~1/7s ).  I don't remember
but I'm guessing most likely I engaged in something like a 15WPM to 20WPM QSO
so it fits. I had an old WW2 oscilloscope and don't remember if I had it
hooked up, but then I could have seen if there was another blip from 2nd
pass. I seem to think I did, but I told this story so many times when I was
a youngster, it may have turned into a "fish story" so I'm not sure. LOL

 Has anyone seen a long path blip come around the world more than once?

ROD/ W5IE

Rod Neumann  cell: (832)444-0192
ALLogic Inc. / AdorStore
PO Box 217
New Ulm, TX 78950



On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 10:39 AM Jeffrey Carson via BVARC <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello, I recently operated portable in Hawaii and noticed echo on some
> signals. Was I hearing long path and short path (technically both, hehe)?
> I seem to remember this back in 2013/4 during the last cycle of good DX.
> This was last Wednesday on a PAR end fed wire in a coconut tree and an 817.
> This was on 20 meters.
>
> Remember, it was only some signals. lol, so it wasn't the radio. 73
>
> Thanks,
>
> KF5ONT
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