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From: Theodore Rappaport [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 8:52 PM
To: Ted <[email protected]>
Cc: Allen Brier N5XZ <[email protected]>; Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]>; 
Ron Kolarik <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; Don Greenbaum N1DG <[email protected]>; Sam 
Leslie - W4PK <[email protected]>; Jeff AC0C <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; Dan White <[email protected]>; Richard Thorne 
<[email protected]>; Mark Sihlanick <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; Jim McDonald <[email protected]>; Tom Morrison 
<[email protected]>; Zoya Popovic <[email protected]>; Terry Gerdes Cell 
<[email protected]>; Ed Muns <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Dick Hanson K5AND 
<[email protected]>; Scott Yost <[email protected]>; Jim George 
<[email protected]>; Paul Stroud <[email protected]>; Dick Hanson K5AND 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Arrl update 17-344 URGENT!

 

See letters so far at:


https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=17-344 
<https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=17-344&sort=date_disseminated,DESC>
 &sort=date_disseminated,DESC





We are losing right now, and must get thousands to write the FCC!





Hoping many of you can file comments contradicting points made in the letters 
of Steve Waterman and ARRL at FCC 17-344, where they seek immediate adoption of 
NPRM 16-239 and also seek legalization of Pactor  4 (and more) anywhere on hf 
cw bands 





You can see a slow and steady drum beat of presumably "non hams" all piling on 
with brief notes to support Steve Waterman's comments, where Steve is the head 
of Winlink which supports or  runs commercial HF internet businesses. See the 
comments and reply comments of FCC 17-344.





It's our (hams) spectrum for now, but if you are quiet and don't protest 
immediately at the FCC , we shall surely lose narrowband protections and face 
Pactor 4 and encoded wideband data everywhere in the HF cw bands, and not just 
the ACDS subbands.





It's our spectrum to lose right now, and being quiet and not standing up to 
these 2 comments is how to lose it! 





There are 10 days left to file comments and hams are losing this right now!





Please get active and spread the word! 





73 ted N9NB


Sent from smartphone, please excuse typos


On Feb 3, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Ted <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
wrote:

Final version suitable for posting and distribution:



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FYI I'm writing this open letter to all directors individually, and I urge you 
to write all of them, too, individually, and spread the word!





And be sure to spread the word for all hams to aggressively file comments at 
FCC before feb 20, 2018 <x-apple-data-detectors://0> . In your FCC comments, 
don't blatantly attack ARRL or winlink or Pactor or ACDS, but point out factual 
problems with the FCC wt16-239 Notice of Proposed rule making and with 
ARRL's/Winlink's desire to push it , your own experiences

with wideband digital data, with Puerto Rico, the past history of suggestions 
made for the FCC and why, what arrl has done or not done in the past in these 
Rulemakings, and proved succinct technical and business arguments needed to 
keep ham radio communications open and with RF bandwidth limits that will 
protect cw and ft8 and rtty and wspr (NOTE: wspr was just recently put into 
ARRL gunsights in the most recent committee minutes released this week).





73 ted n9nb





See links below! Spread the word, again we must rise to save open narrowband 
Communications on our precious HF spectrum!

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From: Ted <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Date: February 2, 2018 at 5:02:07 PM HST
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Jim- may we please talk?




Jim, I'm really sorry we never talked! I hope we do soon.





How did you vote in the presidential election between K5ur and k1ki? Many of us 
in VA,NC, PVRC are wondering.





Also, Please, please help me and tens of thousands (or more) of US hams 
understand the League's continual aggression to try and ram home Pactor 4 and 
other automated encrypted/compressed data into the HF bands. 





Under Vic Poor and others, ARRL tried to ram home RM-11306 at the FCC in 2005, 
and after pulling back, 8 years later came back with a retooled version 
attacking the cw subbands  in Rm-11708 that sadly has caused the FCC to suggest 
no bandwidth limit as a rulemaking (96-16 ; wt16-239) that is now on the table! 
If adopted, it will change the landscape of HF communications, and will allow 
encrypted wideband data of any bandwidth to go ANYWHERE on the cw HF subbands, 
just like has been happening with the current small number of winlink operators 
who violate the ACDS and "documented compression" FCC rules daily. But the new 
rule making, which would remove  the existing 300 baud bandwidth protection, if 
adopted, would permit unlimited bandwidth signals, and no way to decode the 
transmitting station ID or to monitor its automated traffic. Private Email and 
web browsing commerce would result, and a few wideband data stations could take 
over the entire HF band!





Potential Result: CB for internet use, with compressed/encrypted data!





This seems like a very irresponsible position that ARRL has continued  to take, 
given the massive documented problems with winlink/winmoor and reported 
encryption, improper business use (pecuniary interest), and numerous daily 
violations with the ACDS spectrum bandwidth.





Yet, just last week, ARRL (filed by Chris Imlay) and Winlink's Steve Waterman  
again piled on with comments at the FCC public safety filings, and urged for 
immediate passage of wt16-239 or RM-11708. 









Why does the ARRL take this position, continually, in favor of a few thousand 
(at most) winlink users and a single proprietary modem vendor, SCS, when tens 
of thousands or more of cw /rtty/ft8/wspr users will be harmed (and already 
have been)  by QRM on the HF bands?! 





Why does winlink and a single European vendor get such special focus and 
constant lobbying energy from ARRL (now for ~15 years!) at the detriment of the 
masses of incumbent hams and major HF radio vendors?





And why does this week's  ARRL committee minutes rail against wspr as an 
automated transmission violation on the ham bands (only 200 Hz BW is the used 
for the *global* user community in 6 Hz <x-apple-data-detectors://4> channels 
per low power transmitter!), when a **single winlink/Pactor transmitter** has 
12 -15 times more RF bandwidth occupancy, and vastly greater transmitter power, 
than the entire global wspr community, and are continually operating illegally 
outside of FCC rules, and have years of documented problems !? This seems 
ludicrous to me on every level. Why would ARRL attack the very popular, useful, 
 and bandwidth efficient wspr while ignoring such a major and well documented 
problem ( for over a decade) with ACDS Winlink and Winmoor Pactor stations!?





Please tell me and other ARRL members, what's really up, and most importantly , 
please stop this spectrum aggression at the ARRL. It wastes resources and 
continues to promote policies that are rejected by the large majority of hams, 
each who have thousands of dollars invested in the HF segment of the hobby, 
time and again (92% replied against NPRM wt16-239 at the FCC, yet ARRL 
continues to pound on the FCC to rapidly approve their all-or-nothing spectrum 
subband approach, exploiting the recent temporary authorization STA for use in 
the Puerto Rico disaster).





It seems that a few at ARRL are clearly working to "repurpose" the HF spectrum, 
to take it away from cw/rtty/ft8 and now wspr with the all-or-nothing strategy 
that flies in the face of IARU band plans, and

constantly ignores membership, now for 13+ years!! Why? What is the motivation- 
and why must ARRL always try and go for the ENTIRE subband in its spectrum 
repurposing tactics? And why doesn't ARRL work to clean up the myriad existing 
problems with winlink and winmoor and ACDS and Pactor, first??!!





The ARRL's apparent and continual HF spectrum aggression is squarely against 
most public comments and the vast majority of ARRL membership, based on 
comments filed at the FCC for rm 11306, rm 11708 and more recently wt16-239. 
These comments seem to go ignored, time and again,  at the League. Now again, 
members must file more comments against the ARRL and Winlink positions of last 
week in PSHSB 17-344! And we must tell FCC why their NPRM 16-96 wt16-239 would 
be vey detrimental for our hobby (we did the same thing in rm 11708 and 
wt16-239, and again must do so!).





The League seems bent on redefining the hobby without the support or authority 
from its vast membership. It seems to be lobbying against the membership. Why?





Why does ARRL plow ahead, against member's wishes, and in favor of just one 
vendor and a tiny splinter community of hams on this issue at the FCC!? Huge 
amounts of time and money continue to go into these spectrum ambitions of ARRL, 
and the ire of membership is only increased when these positions are taken.





Please stop this, urgently. 









Alert membership, please, on what is going on, and please stop this spectrum 
takeover before the Feb 20 <x-apple-data-detectors://4> , 2018FCC filing 
deadline on PSHSB 17-344.





See:

http://www.kb6nu.com/arrls-latest-push-wide-band-digital-arpa/







Thanks es 73,

Ted N9NB 


Sent from smartphone, please excuse typos


On Jan 24, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Theodore Rappaport <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:





Warning!

ARRL still is pushing aggressively for unlimited digital data to swamp out HF 
CW/RTTY.  See this very recent 31 page FCC filing, and para 33 and beyond,  
that the League just filed before the FCC.

(No mention of the grand standing that CQ so adequately documented of ARRL-led 
efforts in Puerto Rico to capture headlines, but harming emergency efforts).

Based on 2015 board minutes, this latest filing was most likely personally led 
by K5ur, n2ybb, k5uz and Chris Imlay (ARRL council), the same directors who 
attempted the recent by-law and articles changes.

It needs Member attention. Quickly. And messages to the FCC comment system, and 
board members. 

Suggest they we urge FCC and directors to repel the degradation of HF cw/data 
bands proposed in rm 16-239 and the FCC NPRM that resulted, where unlimited 
data is being requested by ARRL. 

There is a limited comment period.

https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10122279117760/2018%20January%20FINAL%20Comments%20PS%20Docket%2017-344.pdf





To: Ted <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Ron Kolarik 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Cc: Theodore Rappaport <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; Don 
Greenbaum N1DG <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Allen Brier 
N5XZ <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Sam Leslie - W4PK 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Jeff AC0C <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; Dan 
White <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Richard Thorne 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Mark Sihlanick 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ; Jim McDonald <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Tom Morrison <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Zoya Popovic <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Terry Gerdes Cell <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Ed Muns <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; Dick Hanson K5AND <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Scott Yost <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Jim George <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Paul Stroud <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; Dick Hanson K5AND <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;



 

 


 
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