Well at least we now know it will be a mass hanging for the offence. Just keep in mind that the repeater trustee is always monitoring ( he never sleeps on the service work job)so thus the repeater is manned by a human for intervention and control. If this was a serious infraction the FCC would be chopping heads from BSA and we would not have JOTA. With proper identify of 3rd party traffic whats the problem. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Wrenn via BVARC To: Eddie Runner ; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [BVARC] I didn't know that!
I was thinking along a similar line so I did some research this morning. The repeater is considered in automatic control if it does not have an operator physically present at its operating point. If the repeater is being controlled by software then it is under automatic control. The other options are remote control, via a phone line or rf link, and local control, which means a human operator is physically located at the machine. The rules, not so simply, state that no automatically controlled radio may transmit third party traffic. So I'm guilty of putting my daughter on the air, Daryl is guilty of putting his wife on the air and the Boy Scouts of America commit this crime every year right about this weekend with JOTA. Seven Three, Michael - K5WRN http://www.qrz.com/db/K5WRN On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: a repeater is not neccissarily AUTOMATIC CONTROL.. Automatic control is like when a repeater automaticly keys up to send its ID. When one if us keys the repeater from our car or HT that is NOT automatic contol. I think someone may be missinterpretting this a bit. Part 97 is of course a bunch of legal talk, ha ha, not easily interpreted by most of us.. (including me) but it does have definitions of automatic, control operator, repeater and third party. the way I read it if you want to let your unlicensed buddy, child or wife, talk through your microphone while you are in control of the rig, through a local repeater, it is ok. Eddie (NU5K) From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Burgess via BVARC Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BVARC] I didn't know that! From the Ham Test Online Extra study material: Automatically Controlled Stations and Third-Party Communications There are a couple of quirky laws about third party communications and automatically controlled stations. The FCC is trying to make sure that amateur radio doesn't compete with any commercial services. a.. Automatically controlled stations are not allowed to originate third party communications. b.. Automatically controlled stations are only allowed to retransmit third party communications if they are RTTY or data. In other words, if you pass third party traffic by voice on a repeater, or let your unlicensed friend talk on a repeater, and there is no control operator monitoring the repeater at that time, the repeater is violating the regulations! Most hams don't know this rule, or simply ignore it, but it is the law. ------- Travis K5HTB _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list [email protected] http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list [email protected] http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8407 - Release Date: 10/17/14
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