Oops, forgot the footnote:

[1]: https://github.com/kubernetes/test-infra/tree/master/prow

On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 16:15, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 16:04, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > Github Actions, GitLab,  TravisCI. even Cloud Build are soooo much easier
> > to work with and get your stuff done.
>
> The multiple threads about how shitty those are in practice for your
> needs seem to indicate otherwise. Security and easy learning curves
> don't seem to get along too well, do they?
>
> > Repos is great. Rewriting all the logic we implemented in our actions (
> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/master/CI.rst) where we use not only
> > the "tasks" but also:
> > * the image registry
> > * updating Github issues
> > * adding labels
> > * PR status integration
> > * pushing changes to dedicated branches in our repo
> > * cancelling duplicated workflows (of 3 kinds)
> > * selective builds based on what files changed, etc.
> >
> > And it is also nicely integrated with 'PR from forks' workflow.
> >
> > It would take a major engineering effort to rewrite to Jenkins (if at all
> > possible).
>
> That would all be possible in Jenkins, some of it would be fairly
> simple to integrate, others would indeed be non-trivial rewrites.
>
> > And even if we do so - we have no certainty whatsoever that the number of
> > our builds will be ok with the capacity.
> > I was involved in Apache Beam CI infra project where Beam has like 16
> > dedicated workers just for them.
>
> You can have your own Jenkins controller for your PMC. This is vastly
> simpler for you to administer than a super time-shared environment
> like GA. CI systems seem to be a dime a dozen nowadays, yet not a
> single one seems to implement job scheduling in a sufficiently
> customizable way that scales.
>
> > Even if we discount the months of engineering effort needed, I have no idea
> > if shared jenkins is enough for us. we run ~50 jobs, some of them 25
> > minute  or more - for each full build (thanks to selective checks we have a
> > lot of builds with shorter/smaller number of  jobs). It would take a LOT of
> > time to switch.
>
> Definitely valid points. Any CI migrations are non-trivial, especially
> once you've set up nice workflows. Perhaps there are some alternatives
> that can help bridge the gap if GA still can't meet your needs. I've
> seen prow [1] used in various projects in the Kubernetes communities,
> and I'm sure there must be plenty of others.

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