> > thanks again for volunteering, appreciate the help was this an april's fool?
Regards, Hervé Le mercredi 2 avril 2014 02:34:04 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : > Hi Jake, > > this page doesn't tell anything about volunteering, and seems not really > updated: > > - on "FAQ For PMCs" side, there is a list of Jenkins admins that seems > really not accurate > http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins#Who_maintains_the_Jenkins_servers.3F > > - on "FAQ For Administrators" side, the svn link "more info on > administering" seems not updated > > I personnally updated the page with as much recent info as I could, like > crius change, but never got feed back nor found who knows more accurate > info (like which slave can be administered by who, since it seems that > Windows nodes for example are not like Ubuntu, or Hadoop or Lucene). > > So the question remains: how do we sign up? > > Regards, > > Hervé > > Le mardi 1 avril 2014 03:03:03 Jake Farrell a écrit : > > Please see http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins for details on the > > process, thanks again for volunteering, appreciate the help > > > > -Jake > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:24 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala > > <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > On Mar 31, 2014 11:15 PM, "Jake Farrell" <jfarr...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hey Om > > > > You are right, talk is cheap. being an admin on any one of the systems > > > > > > that > > > > > > > we run is more than maintaining your pet project and more about > > > > providing > > > > reliable systems for all of our projects to use. I'm sorry that your > > > > project is experiencing a problem with one of our systems. There is an > > > > > > open > > > > > > > issue for this currently, INFRA-7488, and it has been assigned and is > > > > > > being > > > > > > > worked on and it is understood that this is a pain point that needs to > > > > be > > > > addressed for Apache Flex. We appreciate your understanding as we work > > > > through all of the open issues that we face and if you are interested > > > > we > > > > are always looking for volunteers who are willing to step up and help. > > > > > > I already volunteered to help. I volunteer again. How do I sign up? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Om > > > > > > > Thanks again for your patience in this > > > > -Jake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:06 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala < > > > > > > bigosma...@gmail.com > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > Hervé, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing this issue up. I second everything you said. > > > > > > > > > > Having a good build system is essential for a project's success. I > > > > > am > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > the ASF realises this, which is why they have invested in all the > > > > > > hardware > > > > > > > > on which the build systems run. But it is of really no use to us > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > there is no one around to actively maintain and provide support for > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > I know that the admins are volunteers and that they have a real life > > > > > as > > > > > well. But, I am a volunteer too. Every week I get only a few hours > > > > > to > > > > > spare working on my choice of an open source project. But I often > > > > > have > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > end up trying to fix a broken build on a server on which I don't > > > > > have > > > > > > real > > > > > > > > access to, that nobody wants to provide support. No one responds to > > > > > emails. There is very little reaction to JIRA tickets. > > > > > > > > > > Again, talk is cheap. I am here to offer my time to fix the builds > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > so that at least my project of choice (Apache Flex) benefits from > > > > > it. > > > > > > If I > > > > > > > > have additional time, I can help out with other build issues as > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > What does it take to become an admin for Jenkins builds at the ASF? > > > > > > What > > > > > > > > does it take for the current admins to take notice and realize that > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > a real problem? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Om > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 30, 2014 4:47 AM, "Hervé BOUTEMY" <herve.bout...@free.fr> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many people in ASF projects, I need a good CI service: > > > > > > Jenkins > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > tool, then I expected ASF Jenkins farm to give a good service. > > > > > > That's > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > case for a few monthes (no pun intended). > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I'm trying to help by reporting problems, updating > > > > > > documentation > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > wiki > > > > > > page, trying to answer to people on the list who face same > > > > > > problems > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > me, > > > > > > ping people able to do something (trying not to upset them). > > > > > > > > > > > > From these monthes, I only saw few Jenkins admins working on > > > > > > problems, > > > > > > > > > always > > > > > > the same 2 or 3 (not all on the wiki page). But they seem to have > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > to fix immediate issues. And I don't see any plan for fixing > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > problems, > > > > > > apart from master machine change in january: maybe I'm not on the > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > list, > > > > > > maybe there is nothing done. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to give time on this service. But I need to know how to > > > > > > engage > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > people interested in recurring problems, discuss plans to improve > > > > > > the > > > > > > service. > > > > > > Having admin rights on the farm can help, but without discussion > > > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Jenkins farm admins team to decrypt problems and choose a > > > > > > concerted > > > > > > solution, > > > > > > that will only do half of a solution (better than nothing) > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know how to help to get a better service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Hervé
