On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:10:19AM +0200, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > On 24/08/24(Sat) 13:14, Hugh Graham wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 09:31:43PM +0200, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > > On 24/08/24(Sat) 12:09, Hugh Graham wrote: > > > > The machine that slowly received the ports tree crashed upon reboot, > > > > and I have included the traces. It was running 7.5-stable at the > > > > time. I will wait an hour or so, and then restart and repeat > > > > against current. > > > > > > Thanks, could you elaborate how you trigger the corruptions? I'd like > > > to try to reproduce them locally. > > > > To summarise, I first encountered the crash while trying to move > > a large filesystem archive from an old machine that could only > > manage roughly 1MB/s to a relatively new machine over ethernet. > > I then reproduced the crash by setting media 10BaseT on the > > receiving machine, and sending the archive from another new > > machine. I haven't been able to reproduce the crash with either > > local or fast network transfers, but also haven't tested this > > exhaustively. > > > > Subsequently, I have reproduced the crash by setting media 10BaseT > > on my target machine, and sending 25GB of ports and packages via > > pax over netcat. Possibly loops of CVSROOT would work better than > > the large packages. There is a dmesg from the target machine > > deeper in this email thread. > > Hugh, could you please send the exact commands that triggered the crash? > All the details matter!
OK. Here is a log from today. There are two common themes in these crashes. 1) This possibly cursed machine that should be flung into hades. 2) A slow network and lots of file writes. This time it took about 35GB. The kernel was current as of yesterday, and I should note the machine previously used sata ssd and also crashed in the same circumstances. /Hugh >> OpenBSD/amd64 BOOTX64 3.65 boot> boot bsd.76 -s booting hd0a:bsd.76: 20010965+4318216+417824+0+1241088 [1546704+128+1398696+1094397]=0x1ca58f8 entry point at 0x1001000 [ using 4040952 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2024 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. https://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 7.6-beta (GENERIC.MP) #3: Sat Aug 24 11:35:41 PDT 2024 h...@argus.oxide.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 33551818752 (31997MB) avail mem = 32511336448 (31005MB) random: good seed from bootblocks mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.3 @ 0xc67ed000 (65 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "3405" date 12/13/2023 bios0: ASUS PRIME B550M-A efi0 at bios0: UEFI 2.7 efi0: American Megatrends rev 0x50011 acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 6.2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP IVRS SSDT SSDT SSDT FIDT FPDT MCFG HPET VFCT WPBT TPM2 SSDT CRAT CDIT SSDT SSDT SSDT WSMT APIC SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices X162(S4) GP17(S4) XHC0(S4) XHC1(S4) PS2K(S3) X161(S4) PTXH(S4) X1_1(S4) X1_2(S4) RLAN(S4) M2_2(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimcfg0 at acpi0 acpimcfg0: addr 0xf0000000, bus 0-127 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.01 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu0: cpuid 1 edx=178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT> ecx=76f8320b<SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,FMA3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND> cpu0: cpuid 6 eax=4<ARAT> ecx=1<EFFFREQ> cpu0: cpuid 7.0 ebx=219c97a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,PQM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA> ecx=40068c<UMIP,PKU> edx=10 cpu0: cpuid d.1 eax=f<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XGETBV1,XSAVES> cpu0: cpuid 80000001 edx=2fd3fbff<NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG> ecx=75c237ff<LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TCE,TOPEXT,CPCTR,DBKP,PCTRL3,MWAITX> cpu0: cpuid 80000007 edx=6799<HWPSTATE,ITSC> cpu0: cpuid 80000008 ebx=191ef657<IBPB,IBRS,STIBP,STIBP_ALL,IBRS_PREF,IBRS_SM,SSBD> cpu0: cpuid 8000001F eax=1780f<SME,SEV,PFLUSH_MSR,SEVES,REQ64BITHOST,RESTINJ,ALTINJ,DBGSTSW,VTE> edx=1 cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 8-way I-cache, 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache, 16MB 64b/line 16-way L3 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 100MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=1.1, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu1: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor) cpu2: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu3: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0 cpu4 at mainbus0: apid 8 (application processor) cpu4: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu4: smt 0, core 4, package 0 cpu5 at mainbus0: apid 10 (application processor) cpu5: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu5: smt 0, core 5, package 0 cpu6 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu6: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu6: smt 1, core 0, package 0 cpu7 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu7: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu7: smt 1, core 1, package 0 cpu8 at mainbus0: apid 5 (application processor) cpu8: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu8: smt 1, core 2, package 0 cpu9 at mainbus0: apid 7 (application processor) cpu9: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu9: smt 1, core 3, package 0 cpu10 at mainbus0: apid 9 (application processor) cpu10: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu10: smt 1, core 4, package 0 cpu11 at mainbus0: apid 11 (application processor) cpu11: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3900.00 MHz, 19-50-00, patch 0a50000f cpu11: smt 1, core 5, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 13 pa 0xfec00000, version 21, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 14 pa 0xfec01000, version 21, 32 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP6) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP7) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP8) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP9) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 11 (GP17) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP0) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (GP18) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 10 (GPP4) acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP5) acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus 1 (GPP3) acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x00000010 0x00000011 0x00000000 acpicmos0 at acpi0 com0 at acpi0 UAR1 addr 0x3f8/0x8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB amdgpio0 at acpi0 GPIO uid 0 addr 0xfed81500/0x400 irq 7, 184 pins tpm0 at acpi0 TPM_: unsupported TPM2 start method 2 "ACPI0010" at acpi0 not configured acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu4 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu5 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu6 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu7 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu8 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu9 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu10 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS acpicpu11 at acpi0: C3(0@350 io@0x415), C2(0@18 io@0x414), C1(0@1 mwait), PSS "AMDIF030" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured cpu0: 3900 MHz: speeds: 3900 1700 1400 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 ksmn0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 17h/6xh Root Complex" rev 0x00 "AMD 17h/6xh IOMMU" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 not configured pchb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "AMD 17h/6xh Host" rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "AMD 17h/6xh Host" rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 "AMD 17h/6xh PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 xhci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 500 Series xHCI" rev 0x00: msix, xHCI 1.10 usb0 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0 uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00 addr 1 ahci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 "AMD 500 Series AHCI" rev 0x00: msi, AHCI 1.3.1 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 2 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ppb3 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 ppb4 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 em0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82576" rev 0x01: msi, address 98:b7:85:1e:c7:44 em1 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 "Intel 82576" rev 0x01: msi, address 98:b7:85:1e:c7:45 ppb5 at pci2 dev 3 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci6 at ppb5 bus 6 ppb6 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci7 at ppb6 bus 7 ppb7 at pci2 dev 8 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci8 at ppb7 bus 8 ppb8 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 "AMD 500 Series PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci9 at ppb8 bus 9 re0 at pci9 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x15: RTL8168H/8111H (0x5400), msi, address 58:11:22:d4:9e:47 rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8251, rev. 0 ppb9 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 "AMD 17h/6xh PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci10 at ppb9 bus 10 nvme0 at pci10 dev 0 function 0 "Samsung PM9C1a NVMe" rev 0x00: msix, NVMe 2.0 nvme0: Samsung SSD 990 EVO 1TB, firmware 0B2QKXJ7, serial S7M3NS0X521107N scsibus2 at nvme0: 2 targets, initiator 0 sd0 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: <NVMe, Samsung SSD 990, 0B2Q> sd0: 953869MB, 512 bytes/sector, 1953525168 sectors pchb2 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "AMD 17h/6xh Host" rev 0x00 ppb10 at pci0 dev 8 function 1 "AMD 17h/6xh PCIE" rev 0x00 pci11 at ppb10 bus 11 amdgpu0 at pci11 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Cezanne" rev 0xc9 drm0 at amdgpu0 amdgpu0: msi azalia0 at pci11 dev 0 function 1 "ATI Renoir HD Audio" rev 0x00: msi azalia0: no supported codecs ccp0 at pci11 dev 0 function 2 "AMD 17h/1xh Crypto" rev 0x00: msix: RNG xhci1 at pci11 dev 0 function 3 "AMD 17h/6xh xHCI" rev 0x00: msix, xHCI 1.10 usb1 at xhci1: USB revision 3.0 uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00 addr 1 xhci2 at pci11 dev 0 function 4 "AMD 17h/6xh xHCI" rev 0x00: msix, xHCI 1.10 usb2 at xhci2: USB revision 3.0 uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia1 at pci11 dev 0 function 6 "AMD 17h/1xh HD Audio" rev 0x00: msi azalia1: codecs: Realtek ALC897 audio0 at azalia1 piixpm0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "AMD FCH SMBus" rev 0x51: polling iic0 at piixpm0 iic1 at piixpm0 pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 "AMD FCH LPC" rev 0x51 pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb4 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb5 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb6 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb7 at pci0 dev 24 function 4 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb8 at pci0 dev 24 function 5 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb9 at pci0 dev 24 function 6 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 pchb10 at pci0 dev 24 function 7 "AMD 19h/5xh Data Fabric" rev 0x00 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) wskbd0 at pckbd0 mux 1 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83627DHG efifb at mainbus0 not configured uhidev0 at uhub0 port 10 configuration 1 interface 2 "AsusTek Computer Inc. AURA LED Controller" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2 uhidev0: iclass 3/0, 236 report ids uhid0 at uhidev0 reportid 236: input=64, output=64, feature=0 ugen0 at uhub0 port 10 configuration 1 "AsusTek Computer Inc. AURA LED Controller" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2 uhidev1 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "CPS CP1500PFCLCDa" rev 2.00/2.00 addr 2 uhidev1: iclass 3/0, 45 report ids upd0 at uhidev1 uhid1 at uhidev1 reportid 1: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid2 at uhidev1 reportid 2: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid3 at uhidev1 reportid 3: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid4 at uhidev1 reportid 4: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid5 at uhidev1 reportid 5: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid6 at uhidev1 reportid 6: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid7 at uhidev1 reportid 7: input=0, output=0, feature=6 uhid8 at uhidev1 reportid 8: input=5, output=0, feature=5 uhid9 at uhidev1 reportid 9: input=0, output=0, feature=2 uhid10 at uhidev1 reportid 10: input=0, output=0, feature=2 uhid11 at uhidev1 reportid 12: input=1, output=0, feature=1 uhid12 at uhidev1 reportid 13: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid13 at uhidev1 reportid 14: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid14 at uhidev1 reportid 15: input=0, output=0, feature=2 uhid15 at uhidev1 reportid 16: input=4, output=0, feature=4 uhid16 at uhidev1 reportid 18: input=0, output=0, feature=2 uhid17 at uhidev1 reportid 19: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid18 at uhidev1 reportid 20: input=1, output=0, feature=1 uhid19 at uhidev1 reportid 21: input=0, output=0, feature=2 uhid20 at uhidev1 reportid 22: input=0, output=0, feature=2 uhid21 at uhidev1 reportid 24: input=0, output=0, feature=4 uhid22 at uhidev1 reportid 25: input=2, output=0, feature=2 uhid23 at uhidev1 reportid 26: input=1, output=0, feature=1 uhid24 at uhidev1 reportid 27: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid25 at uhidev1 reportid 28: input=0, output=0, feature=5 uhid26 at uhidev1 reportid 29: input=2, output=0, feature=2 uhid27 at uhidev1 reportid 37: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid28 at uhidev1 reportid 38: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid29 at uhidev1 reportid 39: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid30 at uhidev1 reportid 40: input=63, output=0, feature=63 uhid31 at uhidev1 reportid 41: input=0, output=63, feature=63 uhid32 at uhidev1 reportid 42: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid33 at uhidev1 reportid 43: input=0, output=0, feature=1 uhid34 at uhidev1 reportid 44: input=1, output=0, feature=1 uhid35 at uhidev1 reportid 45: input=1, output=0, feature=1 vscsi0 at root scsibus3 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root scsibus4 at softraid0: 256 targets root on sd0a (8e0e562e38eefe35.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b amdgpu0: GREEN_SARDINE GC 9.3.0 7 CU rev 0x00 amdgpu0: 1024x768, 32bpp wsdisplay0 at amdgpu0 mux 1 pckbd_enable: command error wsdisplay0: screen 0-5 added (std, vt100 emulation) Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh: # ifconfig em0 10.0.0.X media 10BaseT # mount_mfs -s 7500000 swap /usr # tar xpf /base76.tar ./usr # mount /scratch # cd /scratch # df -h . Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0p 52.0G 3.4G 46.0G 7% /scratch # nc 10.0.0.X 12345 |pax -r uvm_fault(0xffffffff82828fa0, 0xfffffd073e3be050, 0, 2) -> e kernel: page fault trap, code=2 Stopped at bufcache_release+0x1b0: movq %rdi,0x8(%r8) TID PID UID PRFLAGS PFLAGS CPU COMMAND bufcache_release(fffffd873d45d8f8) at bufcache_release+0x1b0 brelse(fffffd873d45d8f8) at brelse+0x89 sd_buf_done(fffffd80793092c8) at sd_buf_done+0x121 scsi_done(fffffd80793092c8) at scsi_done+0x31 nvme_q_complete(ffff8000000cb000,ffff8000003fa180) at nvme_q_complete+0x134 nvme_intr(ffff8000000cb000) at nvme_intr+0x2b intr_handler(ffff800048e05170,ffff8000003f3b80) at intr_handler+0x91 Xintr_ioapic_edge32_untramp() at Xintr_ioapic_edge32_untramp+0x18f acpicpu_idle() at acpicpu_idle+0x131 sched_idle(ffffffff82782ff0) at sched_idle+0x298 end trace frame: 0x0, count: 5 https://www.openbsd.org/ddb.html describes the minimum info required in bug reports. Insufficient info makes it difficult to find and fix bugs. ddb{0}> show uvm Current UVM status: pagesize=4096 (0x1000), pagemask=0xfff, pageshift=12 7939566 VM pages: 213480 active, 140 inactive, 1 wired, 454198 free (78912 ze ro) min 10% (25) anon, 10% (25) vnode, 5% (12) vtext freemin=264652, free-target=352869, inactive-target=0, wired-max=2646522 faults=215137, traps=215454, intrs=49325992, ctxswitch=156007057 fpuswitch=0 softint=4343899, syscalls=164514156, kmapent=10 fault counts: noram=0, noanon=0, noamap=0, pgwait=0, pgrele=0 ok relocks(total)=718(718), anget(retries)=1153(0), amapcopy=13525 neighbor anon/obj pg=671/655, gets(lock/unlock)=960/718 cases: anon=940, anoncow=213, obj=834, prcopy=126, przero=213023 daemon and swap counts: woke=0, revs=0, scans=0, obscans=0, anscans=0 busy=0, freed=0, reactivate=0, deactivate=0 pageouts=0, pending=0, nswget=0 nswapdev=1 swpages=18089189, swpginuse=0, swpgonly=0 paging=0 kernel pointers: objs(kern)=0xffffffff828a4dc8 ddb{0}> show bcstats Current Buffer Cache status: numbufs 1710821 busymapped 1, delwri 67 kvaslots 6553 avail kva slots 6552 bufpages 6842891, dmapages 157839, dirtypages 268 pendingreads 0, pendingwrites 0 highflips 3390819, highflops 0, dmaflips 970 ddb{0}>