On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 10:20:39AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Doctor! Doctor! It hurts when I stick a knife in here!
> 
> When you do weird, harsh, or unrealistic packet filtering, application
> software will occasionally log that you are losing packets which should
> not be filtered, to alert that normal network operation isn't occuring.
> That is to be expected.  It is even desirable.
> 
> So I think you are only thinking of your own usage case, and trying
> too hard to show that it is synthetic.
> 
> But let's get back to the real story:  libunbound is upstream software.
> We carry diffs against upstream software, but only when the case is
> extremely compelling.
> 
> So how about taking your case up with those doctors, instead.

Perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough.  I understand.  You don't
want to deal with it, and you're protecting Florian from unrealistic waste
of time.  In my network port 53 had a free course before I got these weird
messages which I thought my software was causing.  When I examined unwind a
little it was ignoring my "forwarder" that I set for it and went to the
destination nameservers (arpa. NS's perhaps, or pool.ntp.org.'s) on 
it's own accord.  I only added stricter firewall rules so that I could 
isolate the issue and then it became clearer what the log was trying to 
say.  If you don't want misleading logs then why log at all?

I know next to nothing about libunbound and I'm trying to understand what
unwind was telling me in my logs.  So I won't bother with going upstream
because they can tell me something but I will only understand the half.

-peter

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