On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 12:46:26AM +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 07:57:44PM +0000, Gavin Smith wrote: > > Surely it's better not to use them if they have only recently been > > added to the standards. > > There were not in > https://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-20080122/#entities0 > > They are in the following, which could probably be considered to be HTML 5.0, > from 2014: > https://www.w3.org/TR/2014/PR-html5-20140916/syntax.html#named-character-references > and in HTML 5.1 > https://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html51-20151008/syntax.html#named-character-references > > > Is there any information available anywhere > > on browser support? > > On > https://www.w3schools.com/charsets/ref_html_entities_a.asp > > Older browsers may not support all the HTML5 entities in the table below. > Chrome and Opera have good support, and IE 11+ and Firefox 35+ support all > the entities. > > According to wikipedia, IE11 was released on October 17, 2013, and > Firefox 35 on January 13, 2015.
In my opinion there is no reason for using the new entities in the HTML output. It is not like these are guaranteed to be the last entities ever added to the HTML standard. It seems like something that could carry on being added over time leaving older browsers behind. The numeric entities work just as well as far as I understand the issue so there's no reason not to use them. I think we should stick to HTML 4.01 (Transitional) unless it is really useful to use other features, as HTML could be considered to be "finished" at this point. I don't care what happens with the Texinfo XML output.
