Peter Koch <bug-...@naev.de> wrote: > Dear Joerg: > > Thank's for the quick response. In the meantime I have tried > star which I had not used before. Wonderful programm but its > decision on which files will be included into an incremental > backup seems to be based on the same algorithm that gtar is > using - i.e. mtime-/ctime > date of last backup. > > > My guess is that tar does a stat()-call on x/f2 and notices > > that the st_nlink-value has increased. > > This guess was wrong. Neither gtar nor star care about the > st_nlink count. No wonder I could not find the > string "st_nlink" in their sources. > > So my next guess is: Creating a hardlink will not only change > the st_nlink value but the ctime-value as well. And this makes > gtar and star believe that the file or its metadata has been > changed. If ctime has changed there's no way to find out wether > this was caused by a real change of the files metadata (like > changing the ownership or permissions or acls or whatever) or > wether just the st_nlink-value was changed.
This is how POSIX filesystem semantics is defined. > What if I change the kernel and prevent ctime-changes if only > st_nlink was changed? > > Would that have any unexpected side-effects? This would e.g. result in non-working incremental backups. Maybe I should add that there of course is a reason for not using mtime as a base for incremental backups: Since you can set mtime to any value, you would end in backups where all files that have been extracted by tar or that have been copied with "cp -p" are missing in incremental backups. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.net (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sf.net/projects/schilytools/files/'