Hi Paul, On 2023-08-27 15:16, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2023-08-27 at 08:51 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:> >> Removing @ is not always enough. Many makefiles nowadays need you to >> say "make V=1" to override the default verbosity level. I suggest to >> mention that. > > What does "V=1" do, that removing the "@" doesn't do? I'm not familiar > with any makefile where "V=1" enables "extra" debugging: normally it > just disables "@". I would prefer to avoid adding descriptions that > depend on how specific makefiles are implemented, unless that is also > described in the GNU Make manual. Maybe I will add this trick to the > new "tips" section then that can be discussed here too. >
Removing the '@' is not enough. Consider that someone might be using .SILENT. Maybe mention that removing .SILENT: would be necessary, if it is defined. Here's what the Linux man-pages makefiles do. Cheers, Alex $ cat share/mk/verbose.mk ######################################################################## # Copyright 2022, Alejandro Colomar <a...@kernel.org> # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-3.0-or-later ######################################################################## ifndef MAKEFILE_VERBOSE_INCLUDED MAKEFILE_VERBOSE_INCLUDED := 1 ifdef V HIDE_ERR := else HIDE_ERR := 2>/dev/null .SILENT: endif endif # include guard -- <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/> GPG key fingerprint: A9348594CE31283A826FBDD8D57633D441E25BB5
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