I'm guessing here but I imagine the main problem comes with delaying the
results of submakes?

I haven't tested to see if this is how the new feature works or not. I
don't think it's completely necessary to keep all output from one submake
together. so turning that off might make things more interactive,
Per-target syncing is a valid compromise.

Regards,

Tim


On 30 April 2013 10:48, Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattar...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm sorry to say that the new -O option can interact *badly*
> with Automake-generated parallel testsuites (at least when they
> are being run "interactively", that is, with the output of make
> connected to a tty).
>
> Let me elaborate a little (if you still have doubts or objections
> after reading the considerations below, please do not hesitate to
> ask for clarifications).
>
> For long-running testsuite with lots of tests, the use of the '-O'
> option prevents the results from the tests already run to be displayed
> on the screen until the *whole* testsuite has run.  IMO, this destroys
> feedback and readability of the output.  Try building GNU coreutils and
> running its testsuite with "make -j2 -O" on a slowish system to see how
> this can be annoying in practice.
>
> Moreover, since the output of the recipes is no longer connected to
> a terminal, automatic colorization of output no longer work: no more
> good results in green and failures in red (unless the user forces
> them by exporting AM_COLOR_TESTS to "always").
>
> In defense of the '-O' option, I must say that I see how such an option
> can be actually useful to produce more readable logs when the output is
> being redirected to a file (so that one doesn't care about real-time
> feedback on the console); but for most "interactive" usages, I believe
> its downsides definitely overweight its advantages.
>
> So please don't ever make that option the default; if you really really
> want to, at least put in place some smart checks that only enable '-O'
> when the output is *not* a tty, so that we can have the best of both
> worlds (useful feedback for interactive runs, more readable logs for
> batch runs).
>
> Thanks,
>   Stefano
>
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