Hi, (this mail will look meaningless until the end, where I come to a only slightly meaningful point :) )
Having used | in lyrics for a while, I have discovered that the easiest way to think about barchecks in that context, is that barcheck may be added right _before_ the first stanza of a bar, not after the last stanza of the bar before. The reason is that if you think about it this way, you will drastically reduce the risk of adding the barcheck \lyrics { a | a } to the \notes {c1 | r4 c} While typing vast amounts of lyrics, I tend to feel the first beats of measures, and then I insert |:s before their lyrics. This seems like a more sensible convention than adding barchecks _after_ certain bars. Now I'll get to my point: I earlier suggested that |:s could be added to lilypond's lyrics examples, for pedagogical reasons. This has been done.. Now my new suggestion is to move all barlines that are at the end of one row, to the beginning of the next row. I.e., change oden = \lyrics{ O | den- ne- boom, o | den- ne- boom Wat | zijn uw tak- ken | won- der- schoon } into oden = \lyrics{ O | den- ne- boom, o | den- ne- boom Wat | zijn uw tak- ken | won- der- schoon } Erik _______________________________________________ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond