> > > >   . \clef "bass_8" is ugly.  The `8' glyph is too big and should be
> > > >     below the lowest staff line.
> > 
> > I think so: both `8' and `15' (either at the top or at the bottom)
> > should stay outside of the staff since the number is typeset at a
> > very small size.
> 
> how small? (how about the current size?)

The size is OK, but CVS from Jul-23 9:42 gives me two `8' which
overlap vertically!

  \clef "bass_8" a


    Werner

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