Karl Berry <k...@freefriends.org> writes: > But, whatever. Since it bothers you to use POSIXLY_CORRECT, let's invent > some other envvar that turns off the warning, like > "PLEASE_LET_ME_USE_EFGREP_I_DONT_CARE_ABOUT_POSIX", and Arnold and I > will set it and life can go on. > > https://bugs.gnu.org/49996 > > I'm unconvinced. What Simon's bug report says is "hey, why not deprecate > [ef]grep because it's time". Well, IMHO it's not time, and will never be > time, and "deprecation" merely means "cause trouble for users for no > real reason". My "pet issue" is the exact opposite of Simon's ... > > Without some way to turn off those warnings, GNU [ef]grep become > unusable without editing to remove the comment. It is completely > infeasible, not to mention a tremendous waste of time, to edit > everywhere on my systems that use them, after 40 years of historical > usage. > > I'm not saying scripts intended to be portable should not be changed (as > we know, they have had to be, because POSIX forced it). But all the > scripts in the world which are *not* needed to be portable don't need to > be changed. They just need to keep working and not be randomly broken by > outside forces. > > [ef]grep are fundamental names for the utility. Please reconsider. -k
I can understand your frustration, and maybe it would have been a simpler solution to undeprecate the tools in documentation and have them be official GNU-enhancements as they de-facto has been for the past 20+ years. My pet issue was the inconsistency between documentation and reality, and I don't care strongly how to resolve it. On the other hand, it seems your main problem here is the warning: and I agree that is annoying and should be fixed. There doesn't seem to be any way to disable it now? It would be nice to fix that. I think the simplest way to fix that is to drop the tools rather than to issue warnings: on some current systems (I think it was Alpine), there is no egrep and fgrep any more, and dealing with non-existing tools (discover the error, then use egrep -E or add a personal alias for interactive use) is easier than dealing with annoying warnings that cannot be disabled. /Simon
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