> Can we easily get cat>foo (or some equivalent) to produce CRLF files?
I guess I meant, "can we get cat>foo (or some equivalent)" to produce CRLF files *when hello does*. That is, to get some standard command to operate in text mode under mingw[/cygwin/whatever]. Does echo also operate in binary mode by default? You could just grep for interesting output; that's what I prefer. True enough. But I'm still interested in whether there's a standard utility that will operate in text mode on CRLF systems. Thanks, k