On Thu, 2025-05-29 at 12:53 +0100, Gaël Donval wrote:
> > On 29/05/2025 10:56, Gael Donval wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2025-05-29 at 10:10 +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> > > > On 28/05/2025 16:14, Gael Donval wrote:
> > > > > Dear list,
> > > > > 
> > > > > We've unearth an odd behaviour in cp: `cp --preserve=xattr` tries to 
> > > > > copy both attributes of the chattr kind and extended attributes of 
> > > > > the getfattr kind with apparently no way to disable either one of 
> > > > > them (it's all or nothing). This is problematic in tools like mkosi 
> > > > > where non-filesystem-specific xattributes need to be preserved whilst 
> > > > > FS-specific attributes must be discarded for cross-filesystem support.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have added a MWE at the end of this email after my signature: it 
> > > > > creates two raw partitions as files (one as XFS, one as BTRFS), 
> > > > > mounts them in local folders and creates 3 files in the BTRFS 
> > > > > partitions later altered before copy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Referring to the script, we think there should be an option to copy 
> > > > > files foo (no-attr), bar (setfattr) and baz (chattr), keeping the 
> > > > > setfattr's xattr and discarding chattr's attr. Looking at the code, 
> > > > > it seems like cp eventually defers the actual attribute copying 
> > > > > libattr, which seems to handle both, but separately (which is what we 
> > > > > want).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would it make sense to add a separate `attr` preserve value for the 
> > > > > chattr case and keep `xattr` for getfattr case?
> > > > 
> > > > I've not looked in detail at your case,
> > > > but it's worth noting that /etc/xattr.conf
> > > > gives the facility to skip copying certain xattrs.
> > > > Does that suffice to handle your issue?
> > > 
> > > As far as I can tell, xattr.conf cannot be used to ignore normal file
> > > attributes (as opposed to extended attributes), can it? We need a way
> > > to copy extended attributes without copying normal file attributes.
> > 
> > Well there is no code in coreutils to copy "chattr" attributes.
> > It was discussed previously, but we decided not to support those
> > due to the incompat issues you're hitting.
> 
> It does copy them though. If it's not the intent of `preserve=xattr`,
> I'm afraid it's a bug. My reproducer makes it obvious that it tries to
> copy them. If you change `mkfs.xfs` to `mkfs.btrfs`, it will all
> succeed and you'll see chattr attributes are copied. If your remove `--
> preserver=xattr`, you'll see chattr attributes are not copied anymore. 
> > 
> > That version of cp are you using?
> 
> cp (GNU coreutils) 9.7
> 
> > 
> > strace may be instructive as to that is reading/writing these chattrs
> > (this is done with ioctl FS_IOC_GETFLAGS IIRC).
> 
> I might be wrong but it looks like everything xattr-related is deferred
> to libattr. 
> I'll investigate that tomorrow!

Ok, I've done that and you were right. I guess BTRFS implements its
file attributes as extended attributes. The relevant part of the strace
is this:

openat(AT_FDCWD, "btrfs/baz", O_RDONLY) = 4
openat(3, "baz", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0644) = 5
flistxattr(4, NULL, 0)                  = 18
flistxattr(4, "btrfs.compression\0", 18) = 18
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/xattr.conf", O_RDONLY) = 6
read(6, "# /etc/xattr.conf\n#\n# Format:\n# "..., 4096) = 622
fgetxattr(4, "btrfs.compression", NULL, 0) = 4
fgetxattr(4, "btrfs.compression", "zlib", 4) = 4
fsetxattr(5, "btrfs.compression", "zlib", 4, 0) = -1 EOPNOTSUPP (Operation not 
supported)

and updating /etc/xattr.conf to ignore it does work.

I can't see any way to tweak this behaviour at command-line level yet
the behaviour can be triggered by normal users: would it make sense to
add a flag to filter xattr out at CLI level?

Cheers,
Gaël


> 
> Gaël
> 
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Pádraig

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