On Apr 20, 2008, at 14:37 , Russ Allbery wrote:

Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Knowing that, I expect to revert that patch -- unless someone
can come up with a very good argument for the new behavior.

Out of curiosity, how have you used it?

Usually to tell whether two shells are in different PAGs, which is useful
when hunting down problems with AFS PAM modules and the like.  Also to
tell whether a process is in a PAG at all, although with current Linux
kernels the keyring is the canonical place where that's stored.

Putting on my sysadmin hat, I am somewhat baffled by this discussion. Completely hiding unknown groups? I would print numerically and return a nonzero exit status (the latter possibly overrideable for OpenAFS use where they are expected); hiding them completely isn't just a way to annoy OpenAFS users, it also hides a clue to a system configuration problem (namely, missing groups in the group database).

If someone actually needs the hiding behavior, make it an option (possibly invokable via an environment variable).

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brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university    KF8NH




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