On 2013-12-24 09:25:05 +0100, rens wrote:
> *read is a built in. there is no  subshell.

    $ echo "$BASHPID"; : | echo "$BASHPID"
    26269
    26271

> any way, it seems then to me that even IF "read" was a subshell, the scope
> of that would start and end with the read statement.

I don't know why you think that.

> thus, magically read in the subshell  is making while a part of it's own
> shell ???

No, the pipe is.

> there is no "while|read"  command, you see.....
> 
> so "while"  also invokes a shell ? that magically can do which you think is
> not possible ??
> because it is then the parent, not a child, evidently ?
> 
> please explain......

The pipe creates the subshell.

> there  is no read command in my path.
> 
> so, with that out of the way, what is your comment ?

What does `read` have to do with anything?

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