On 12/10/2014 11:22 AM, John D. Hendrickson wrote: > > GNU M4 is a prerequisite for Autoconf.
Correct. Installed GNU M4 is a prerequiste for using autoconf. > > but m4 has been altered to require make and also autoconf Correct - but ONLY for building from m4.git. It is NOT a requirement to have autoconf installed in order to build m4 from a tarball. In other words, there is no circular dependency. Grab an m4 tarball, build and install that. Then grab an autoconf tarball, build and install that. From there, you can now grab m4.git and autoconf.git if you want latest-and-greatest unreleased versions, or stick with the tarball builds that you already installed. > > i can barely find and make a (chroot) which can "upstart" from scratch > which does not end up REQUIRING ITSELF IN THE RESULT by depends > > see ? :) You're not the first person to ask about this; nor will you be the last. But so far, you haven't raised any actual bug reports, but merely repeated what is already known. > > thanks wonderful too have a good day and all that -jh Sarcasm doesn't work well in email. I don't know whether you are trying to vent frustration, or offer on advice on something that we need to change (better documentation about bootstrapping), or something else entirely. At any rate, I wish you luck on getting your desired software installed. You can always use a pre-built distribution to save yourself the headaches of figuring it out for yourself. -- Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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