Hi Jürgen:

Thanks for the latest additions to README-1.  respect… Peter

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann 
> <m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> thanks, I updated README-1-prerequisites. There seems to be no difference 
> between maxOS
> and GNU/Linux: in both you have to install svn manually. Not sure about git 
> because I cant
> remember if it was there initially or if I installed it later on.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> On 10/8/22 9:50 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>> Hi Jürgen:
>> 
>> Sadly Apple’s favourite song seems to be “I did it my way!” 
>> (I am on Mojave 10.14 - and unable to install later releases without 
>> patching, which I don’t do.)
>> 
>> Referring to my 31 March 2021 email — Re: Notes about git-svn source control 
>> in macOS:
>> "macOS Catalina 10.15 Command line tool support for Subversion — including 
>> svn, git-svn, and related commands — 
>> is no longer provided by Xcode. (50266910)”
>> 
>> Based on the above my conclusion is that: 
>> 
>> if you are an Apple developer using macOS version  >= Catalina 10.15 you 
>> need to install either svn or git yourself!
>> I think this also apples to sqlite3.
>> 
>> respect….
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:29 PM, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann 
>>> <m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de <mailto:m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> yes, we could document this. However, I am lacking the necessary 
>>> information to do so.
>>> As far as SVN is concerned, it should now also be possible to use git (with 
>>> some minor
>>> quirks due to the lack of SVN version numbers).
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/5/22 11:32 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>>>> Hi Jürgen:
>>>> 
>>>>  My recollection is that Apple used to distribute a number of command line 
>>>> apps for developers and did put them in the correct dirs.
>>>> They stopped distributing svn and also sql around 2017.
>>>> I wonder if we should document the README prerequisite about this issue? 
>>>> 
>>>> Gandalf:trunk pteeson$ ./configure --with-sqlite3=/usr/local/opt/sqlite3
>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
>>>> ……..
>>>> checking for __atomic_fetch_add_4 in -latomicity... no
>>>> checking for SQLite3 library >= 3.0.0... yes
>>>> checking for pg_config... no
>>>> 
>>>> repeat
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 5, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann 
>>>>> <m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de 
>>>>> <mailto:m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks. A closer look into the m4/ax_lib_sqlite3.m4 macro reveals two 
>>>>> problems, which apparently only
>>>>> occurs on macOS:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. The m4 macro looks for include/sqlite3.h only in the directories  
>>>>> /usr, /usr/local, and /opt,
>>>>> while macOS decides to install in  /usr/local/opt. Therefore sqlite.h is 
>>>>> not found even
>>>>> though it exists. In defence of the m4 script I should mention that, 
>>>>> according to the
>>>>> Linux File Hierarchy Standard (aka. FHS), /usr/local/opt is not a 
>>>>> suitable location for
>>>>> that file and the fault is more on the macOS side.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. The m4 macro is faulty when sqlite.h is not found. This is due to a 
>>>>> quirk in bash. In the
>>>>> bash shell you can compare two strings or string variables. However if 
>>>>> any of the two strings
>>>>> is empty (like it happens when sqlite.h is not found) then the comparison 
>>>>> does not return
>>>>> an equal or not equal result, but instead raises the syntax error (on 
>>>>> line 19090) that you
>>>>> see below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both problems should be fixed in SVN 1593 now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW installation mismatches caused by non-standard installation 
>>>>> directories can
>>>>> sometimes (!) be fixed by ./configure options. In the above case 
>>>>> something along the
>>>>> lines of
>>>>> 
>>>>> ./configure --with-sqlite3=/usr/local/opt 
>>>>> 
>>>>> may have worked (whether it does or does not work depends entirely on the 
>>>>> m4 macro).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/3/22 11:29 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jürgen:
>>>>>> I started with an empty dir, downloaded current version 1592, and 
>>>>>> ./configure. Same warning.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The m4/ax_lib_sqllite3.m4 says:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "dnl If no intallation prefix to the installed SQLite library is given
>>>>>> dnl the macro searches under /usr, /usr/local, and /opt."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gandalf:~ pteeson$ cd /usr/local/opt/sqlite3/include
>>>>>> Gandalf:include pteeson$ ls -al sql*
>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 502  staff  581196 18 Jun  2020 sqlite3.h
>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 502  staff   35269 18 Jun  2020 sqlite3ext.h
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> checking for SQLite3 library >= 3.0.0... yes
>>>>>> cat: /include/sqlite3.h: No such file or directory
>>>>>> ./configure: line 19090: test: !=: unary operator expected     <======
>>>>>> configure: WARNING: Can not find SQLITE_VERSION macro in sqlite3.h 
>>>>>> header to retrieve SQLite version!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I found it in the header
>>>>>> #define SQLITE_VERSION        "3.32.3"
>>>>>> #define SQLITE_VERSION_NUMBER 3032003
>>>>>> #define SQLITE_SOURCE_ID      "2020-06-18 14:00:33 
>>>>>> 7ebdfa80be8e8e73324b8d66b3460222eb74c7e9dfd655b48d6ca7e1933cc8fd"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I do not know how to proceed further to help isolate what’s up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> respect…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann 
>>>>>>> <m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de 
>>>>>>> <mailto:m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks for reporting this. It looks like the m4/ax_lib_sqlite3.m4 macro 
>>>>>>> shipped with
>>>>>>> GNU APL has been outdated over time. I have updated it from a more 
>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>>> version from here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://ac-archive.sourceforge.net/ac-archive/ax_lib_sqlite3.m4 
>>>>>>> <https://ac-archive.sourceforge.net/ac-archive/ax_lib_sqlite3.m4>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hope this fixes the problem at your end, please let me know.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/2/22 11:03 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jürgen:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Doing some investigation I came across this(see my comments below):
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ./configure
>>>>>>>> …….
>>>>>>>> checking for SQLite3 library >= 3.0.0... yes
>>>>>>>> cat: /include/sqlite3.h: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>> ./configure: line 19132: test: !=: unary operator expected
>>>>>>>> configure: WARNING: Cannot find SQLITE_VERSION macro in sqlite3.h 
>>>>>>>> header to retrieve SQLite version!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> locate sqlite
>>>>>>>> …….
>>>>>>>> /usr/bin/sqlite3
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/libsqlite3.0.dylib
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/libsqlite3.dylib
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/sqlite3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gandalf:trunk pteeson$ cd /usr/lib
>>>>>>>> Gandalf:lib pteeson$ ls -al s*
>>>>>>>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     27 12 Jun 14:42 sqlite3 -> 
>>>>>>>> /System/Library/Tcl/sqlite3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ========= My questions =======
>>>>>>>> This version and location of sqlite3 goes back to macOS Snow Leopard 
>>>>>>>> (2009).
>>>>>>>> It has been part of every macOS release up to and including Mojave 
>>>>>>>> (2017-last version I can run on my HW)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --with-sqlite3=[ARG]
>>>>>>>>    Build the native function for SQL using sqlite3. ARG may provide the
>>>>>>>>    non-default location of the sqlite3 library.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (1) Based on the above it seems macOS version is not in the default 
>>>>>>>> location. 
>>>>>>>>     What is the default location on Unix type systems? Also Windows?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    So what is the most elegant solution to this?
>>>>>>>>    (I don’t use sqlite and for sure I will not remember every time I 
>>>>>>>> download a new version of Gnuapl.)
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> (2) Would adding a note to the README make sense?
>>>>>>>>     Or recognize macOS and fix it in configure?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (3) Forget about it 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyway I thought to pass it on for your comment.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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