Hi Jürgen:

It does indeed

Gandalf:~ pteeson$ pkg-config --version
0.29.2

I will look into installing GTK 3, re-builing & testing, and will report back.

Homebrew has installer for version 3 for Mojave, Catalina, and Big Sur.
<https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/gtk+3#default 
<https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/gtk+3#default>>

I have a question though - 

How do I find out what the dependancies are for the various add-on System Quad 
functions?

respect….

Peter
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann 
> <m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> for GTK you need gtk+-3.0, The version on your box looks too old.
> 
> Does Apple support pkg-config? In that case (and if gtk+3 is installed)
> then ./configure should find everything and pkg-config should say (e.g.):
> 
> eedjsa@server68:~$ pkg-config --cflags  gtk+-3.0 
> -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 
> -I/usr/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 
> -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 
> -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 
> -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 
> -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 
> -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
> -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include
> 
> eedjsa@server68:~$ pkg-config --libs  gtk+-3.0 
> -lgtk-3 -lgdk-3 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -latk-1.0 -lcairo-gobject 
> -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> On 3/19/21 5:12 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>> Thanks very much Jürgen..
>> 
>> build log shows
>> ~/Desktop/ForJohn.txt:207: checking for gtk_init in -lgtk-3... no
>> 
>> locate shows
>> /usr/local/opt/gtk
>> /usr/local/opt/gtk+
>> 
>> I don’t recall when or why I installed these libs. Maybe because Doxygen 
>> required one or the other.
>> Anyhow it doesn’t really matter why they are there; my ./configure needs 
>> fixing if I want to use ⎕PLOT.
>> 
>> Since ⎕PLOT is an “extra” to APL I will file this thread so I can remember 
>> these libs are needed.
>> My understanding of ./configure is that all of these additional System 
>> functions are included by default in the build process.
>> 
>> In this case it was only when trying to plot that the issue surfaced.
>>  Well we learned a lot.
>> 
>> respect
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann 
>>> <m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de <mailto:m...@xn--jrgen-sauermann-zvb.de>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gentlemen,
>>> 
>>> I suppose all you need is to tell ./configure where to find the additional 
>>> include
>>> and library files for X11, e.g.:
>>> 
>>> CXXFLAGS="-I /an_extra_include_path -I /another_include_path" \
>>> LDFLAGS="-L /an_extra_library_path -L /another_library_path"  \
>>>    ./configure <your-configure-options>
>>> 
>>> Note that \ is THE trailing character in the first two lines (so that the 
>>> above
>>> becomes a single line) and that there are NO whitespace before =.
>>> 
>>> Then check the output of ./configure as to if all relevant components
>>> for ⎕PLOT were found:
>>> 
>>> checking xcb/xcb.h usability... yes
>>> checking xcb/xcb.h presence... yes
>>> checking for xcb/xcb.h... yes
>>> checking X11/Xlib.h usability... yes
>>> checking X11/Xlib.h presence... yes
>>> checking for X11/Xlib.h... yes
>>> checking X11/Xlib-xcb.h usability... yes
>>> checking X11/Xlib-xcb.h presence... yes
>>> checking for X11/Xlib-xcb.h... yes
>>> checking X11/Xutil.h usability... yes
>>> checking X11/Xutil.h presence... yes
>>> checking for X11/Xutil.h... yes
>>> 
>>> Note also that xcb has some issues with Unicode characters that make
>>> in particular APL characters in window titles and inside the plot windows
>>> unreadable. Try to use GTK3 instead.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/19/21 3:52 AM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>>>> P.S. Gandalf:~ pteeson$ ls -al /usr/X11
>>>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  8  9 Jul  2020 /usr/X11 -> /opt/X11
>>>> Gandalf:~ pteeson$ ls -al /opt/X11
>>>> total 0
>>>> drwxr-xr-x    9 root  wheel   288 27 Sep  2016 .
>>>> drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel    96 26 Sep  2016 ..
>>>> drwxr-xr-x  128 root  wheel  4096  9 Jul  2020 bin
>>>> drwxr-xr-x    4 root  wheel   128 29 Oct  2016 etc
>>>> drwxr-xr-x   19 root  wheel   608  9 Jul  2020 include
>>>> drwxr-xr-x  204 root  wheel  6528  9 Jul  2020 lib
>>>> drwxr-xr-x    4 root  wheel   128 26 Oct  2016 libexec
>>>> drwxr-xr-x   14 root  wheel   448 27 Sep  2016 share
>>>> drwxr-xr-x    5 root  wheel   160 27 Sep  2016 var
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:32 PM, Peter Teeson <peter.tee...@me.com 
>>>>> <mailto:peter.tee...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi John:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Same issue here…(svn 1410) on Mojave 10.14.6.
>>>>>  I have copied the list. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       ⎕PLOT ''
>>>>> SYNTAX ERROR+
>>>>>       ⎕PLOT ‘'
>>>>> 
>>>>> I searched the bug-app archives and there was a bunch of emails last 
>>>>> summer about missing X11.
>>>>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-apl/2020-08/msg00000.html 
>>>>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-apl/2020-08/msg00000.html>>   <— 
>>>>> read this
>>>>> 
>>>>> Never use ⎕PLOT myself.  But I did find X11 in my build log:
>>>>> 
>>>>> checking for XGetXCBConnection in -lX11-xcb... no
>>>>> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I do locate X11 in Terminal I get this
>>>>> /opt/X11
>>>>> /usr/X11
>>>>> 
>>>>> So maybe that’s the issue? 
>>>>> Need to fix $PATH for GNU APL build??
>>>>> 
>>>>> respect
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:25 PM, John Helm <jh...@usa.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:jh...@usa.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Peter - 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please forgive me in advance for reaching out directly, but I fear I 
>>>>>> have a local problem and don't want to spam the list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just tried your clone suggestion below and it fails for me...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I built a VMware Fusion virtual machine with a clean install of Mojave 
>>>>>> 10.14.6
>>>>>> Installed the XCode command line tools
>>>>>> Ran: git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/apl.git 
>>>>>> <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/apl.git>
>>>>>> cd trunk, followed by ./configure, make, sudo make install
>>>>>> Installed the apl keyboard and tested with ⎕plot '', which returns a 
>>>>>> syntax error instead of the ⎕plot message.
>>>>>> I have repeated this exercise with High Sierra and Catalina on physical 
>>>>>> machines with the same result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, I performed a MacPorts install on High Sierra and Catalina on 
>>>>>> physical machines; again, with the same result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I spend much of my time in OS X command shell (iTerm2, to be specific) 
>>>>>> and seldom have this much difficulty doing builds. Nonetheless, I'm okay 
>>>>>> with being guilty of user-error until proven innocent. In any case it 
>>>>>> seems clear that something big-and-basic is wrong. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would you be willing to send me the console log of one of your 
>>>>>> successful builds? This would let me do a diff against my build logs and 
>>>>>> possibly give me some clues as to what I'm doing wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/7/21 9:59 PM, Peter Teeson wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jürgen:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As promised a brief update note.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On a clean install of macOS Mojave 10.14.6 I confirm that using  
>>>>>>> git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/apl.git 
>>>>>>> <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/apl.git> just works.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And with the default settings the Terminal waltz builds clean.
>>>>>>> And APL executes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My hardware is an Early 2009 Mac Pro and so far there has never been a 
>>>>>>> need 
>>>>>>> to patch the installer from 2009 Snow Leopard 10.6 thru to 2018 Mojave 
>>>>>>> 10.14.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did apply a patch to the firmware to make it a 5,1 from the original 
>>>>>>> 4,1.
>>>>>>> Will look into whether it’s reasonable to install Catalina and Bug Sur.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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