>I agree with Dan M. and Pogo, "I have met the enemy and he is us." I am
>trying hard to get up and moving to help reeducate the Fox Koolaid drinkers
>but it is difficult to stay motivated.

The education is not just that, IMHO.  It's seeing the eschewing of hard
consequences from things one has been evaluating oneself.  I try to counter
this by finding intelligent, reasonable people with different points of
view.  For the last 10+ years I've had Dr. Mukunda to debate with, first on
this list, and then via IM when he felt it was time to leave here.  (I
usually don't drop titles, but his still squeaks it's so new).

The point of wingnuts is that there are plenty of crazies on the left and on
the right, and leftists tend to believe leftist wingnuts, right winger tend
to believe right wingnuts, and independents believe some combination,
depending on the circumstances.

Let me give you one example of something neither party is talking about.
There is a good reason new jobs are not being created now, and why few were
created under Bush II.  It's a hard problem to face, and any politician that
gave an honest assessment would lose any chance of election.

In short, I'd argue the government is so dysfunctional because it represents
national thinking well.

Now, that may be a bit overstated, but I'd be happy to start a discussion of
how we need to face unpleasant facts.  But, I don't think all is loss.  I
think China is very much like Japan in the '80s.

Dan M. 


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