On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Doug Pensinger<brig...@zo.com> wrote:
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> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:09 AM, John Williams <jwilliams4...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> Many apologies for being able to make my point without being long winded.

Apparently I was too subtle. I simply meant to convey that there are
many questions that can be posed simply to which the answers can be
extraordinarily long and complex. The question posed was one such. And
I don't think it can be answered definitively at all, let alone by me
in the amount of time I can spare to devote to it.

>  Ha, you sound like a politician John.

Excellent observation! Politicians frequently oversimplify complex
phenomena in order to make it sound like they have a thorough
understanding and can therefore be trusted to impose rules from above
to make everything work out right.

>  But how much less health care can
> there be in these universal systems considering some 16% of our country
> isn't covered at all?

Again, a simple question with a complicated answer. I invite you to
research it yourself. Some things you are likely to find is that in
some of the other countries you refer to, that wait times are longer,
mistakes are more common, and specialized procedures are less
available. Also, to pick one subject that I am familiar with, cancer
survival rates are higher in the US than almost all other countries.

> And are you saying that customer satisfaction is
> better in the U.S. because I'd have to call you on that one too.

I've seen some studies that suggest it, yes. But I'd certainly be
interested in seeing your citations on the subject.

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