On 06/01/2009, at 9:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> It doesn't, indefinitely. And GDP is a poor measure, it really is.
>
>
> Even GDP per capita?  Even after figuring in purchasing power  
> parity?  Is
> your arguement that per person income is not a good financial  
> measure of
> the wealth of a country?

How that wealth is distributed is important too. If 10% of a nation is  
living in poverty and 15% don't have health cover, there's something  
wrong.
>
>> And on all those  measures, the USA is not doing well compared to  
>> other
> developed
>> nations.
>
> Well, I see you didn't include unemployment, projected workers/retiree
> ratios, productivity or any of the factors that favor the US.

US, 6.5% unemployed. Oz, 5%. The US may be up in the top echelon in  
many measures, but it's no longer top of most of the ones it was top of.

>  Health is a
> very complex subject, which I'd be glad to discuss (including the  
> fact that
> the US is paying for health advances that other developed countries  
> then
> piggy back on),

As are Aus, Japan, Germany, the UK etc. Both the discovery of  
_Helicobacter pylori_ and the development of the HPV vaccine were  
Australian.

> as is poverty.  Again, we can have a fruitful discussion on
> either topic, but the realities are very complex.

Of course they are. That's my entire point in saying GDP alone is a  
poor measure. I'm not interested in a "fruitful discussion" on those  
issues, 'cause I'm sick in bed ironically, I just wanted to make the  
point that the USA makes some tragic problems for its own citizens,  
and saying "We're number one!" through GDP masks a lot of the real  
picture.

Don't think this is just US-bashing, when it's relevant I'm just as  
scathing of the Australian government, and the UK, Cyprus, etc etc.  
Anywhere I've spent some time.

Charlie.
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