i just came across this in my spam folder, claes...

> socialism is not without flaws.  there is
> > dissension among socialists, and most  
> would condemn my preference for a mixed
> > economy.  i recognize the importance of
> individual incentives, and not against all 
> private enterprise by any means, nor am i
> > in favor of a welfare state. 

> What is the "European style socialism" that
> you prefer, if you are not in favor of a  
> welfare state?  Or perhaps we mean different
> things with this term?
>     /c

depends on what kind of welfare state.  sweden's model is preferable to 
england, both economies have access to north sea oil.  i don't believe in 
fostering dependency, or enabling people "working the system" to supplement 
their "under the table" income with the "dole". 

i do believe the state should assist people with disabilities to become self 
sufficient, and provide services like health care, free education and 
vocational training, etc.  

actually i think we need to come up with new models of enlightened democratic 
socialism that are productive and creative, rather than destructive to the 
environment.
jon


      
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