> I'm hoping to engage in civilized 
> discourse with no strings attached. 
> I keep hoping I can be that way no
>  matter how other people may behave.
> Nick



you're a better man than i am, gunga din.  i'm unable to resist giving williams 
a taste of his own medicine.  if i was a saint i would try to find a face 
saving way for john to abandon the fray, but i don't know how.-{
jon


      
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