> > The essence of reasonable debate is that the
> participants are armed  with
> > sufficient education and discipline to resist
> irrationality and form
> > arguments that provoke greater understanding,
> knowledge and perhaps  
> > wisdom.

> And there are people who know that they will lose a
> reasonable debate  
> and therefore deliberately sabotage reasonable debate by
> using lies  
> and illogic and any other dirty tricks they can come up
> with instead  
> of reasonable debate.
> Creationists are such a group.
> Liars Maru
> William T Goodall

because their so called "proof" is faith based.  they cannot refute science, so 
they must lie, distort and appeal to emotional arguments to keep the faithful 
ignorant.
jon


      
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